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kongo_totte

03-23-2005, 02:10 PM

Hand 1, villian is 40/15 after 60 hands

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CO ($49.25)
Hero ($132)
SB ($50.3)
BB ($34.7)
UTG ($49.55)
UTG+1 ($48.25)
UTG+2 ($50)
MP1 ($50.75)
MP2 ($45.95)
MP3 ($40)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.25. UTG+2 posts a blind of $0.5. MP3 posts a blind of $0.5.
UTG calls $0.50, 1 fold, UTG+2 (poster) checks, 2 folds, MP3 (poster) checks, CO calls $0.50, Hero raises to $3, 1 fold, BB calls $2.50, UTG folds, UTG+2 calls $2.50, MP3 calls $2.50, CO folds.

Flop: ($13.25) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (4 players)
BB bets $5, UTG+2 folds, MP3 folds, Hero raises to $15, BB raises to $30, Hero calls $15.

Turn: ($73.25) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)

Villian checks, Hero bets $2, villian calls $1.7 all in.

River: ($73.25) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)

Final Pot: $73.25

Is there an other way to play this?

Hand 2, no reads

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UTG+1 ($49.5)
Hero ($110.2)
MP1 ($50.8)
MP2 ($36.7)
MP3 ($48.3)
CO ($48.25)
Button ($41.75)
SB ($45.2)
BB ($46.95)
UTG ($50.75)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 3/images/graemlins/club.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG calls $0.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.50, 1 fold, MP2 calls $0.50, 2 folds, Button calls $0.50, SB (poster) raises to $1.75, 1 fold, UTG calls $1.50, Hero calls $1.50, MP2 calls $1.50, Button calls $1.50.

Flop: ($10.50) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif (5 players)
SB bets $3, UTG calls $3, Hero calls $3, MP2 folds, Button folds.

Turn: ($19.50) J/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
SB checks, UTG bets $5, Hero calls $5, SB folds.

River: ($29.50) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
UTG bets $5, Hero raises to $15, UTG folds.

Final Pot: $49.50

Personally, I strongly hate my turn play.
At the moment, I was looking for an over call.

Hand 3, pay off short stack?

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SB ($7.5)
BB ($77.02)
UTG ($50.65)
UTG+1 ($9.4)
Hero ($84.7)
MP1 ($29.05)
MP2 ($52.4)
MP3 ($57.92)
CO ($68.5)
Button ($45.75)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG calls $0.50, UTG+1 calls $0.50, Hero raises to $3, MP1 calls $3, 6 folds, UTG calls $2.50, UTG+1 folds.

Flop: ($10.25) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $7, MP1 insta-pushes, UTG folds, Hero calls $19.05.

Turn: ($36.30) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)

River: ($36.30) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)

Final Pot: $36.30

kongo_totte

03-23-2005, 03:37 PM

bump

DrPublo

03-23-2005, 03:49 PM

Hand 2, don't worry about. Those hands don't come up often enough for your play on them to have a significant effect on your winrate. Maybe minraise the turn as you want to get some money out of a flush draw.

Hand 3 is close. MP1 will have a flush draw or a pair here just about as often as he'll have a set, but the push isn't for very much. I probably call.

The Doc

kurto

03-23-2005, 03:50 PM

Hand 1- I have no idea. You would think that with Jacks or Better, any of your opponents would have raised preflop... unless they're all super passive preflop. I would have to guess the big blind either has quads, slowplayed AA-QQ OR is an idiot. I'm a little more passive with 10s then you so I might not be the best person to judge this hand.

2) Depending on your players, I would probably raise the turn. It really difficult to judge if you would have made any more in this hand. A paired board can make a lot of people nervous. (though I imagine most would have a hard time putting anyone on a 3)

Considering that board, there's not too many powerful hands that someone could have made that's going to pay you off very often.

3) Would the short stack push with a flush draw? The only play that a decent player could do this with that isn't a semibluff would be a set (since I can't see him calling with anything else that he would have hit with that flop, other then a flush draw.) Its not impossible to envision a weaker player having a decent PP who takes a guess that you raised with AK/AQ and completely missed the flop.

I find it impossible to answer this as a generality... I've laid down opponents or gone all in here completely based on the quality of the opponents play throughout the session.

DrPublo

03-23-2005, 03:53 PM

Hand 1 you want to play for a small pot, I think, since it seems rare that a worse hand will pay you off...I suppose its nice that you got the money in before the Q slid off because it would suck to run into something like AQ or KQ.

The Doc

PinkSteel

03-23-2005, 03:53 PM

1. Three calls to my PFR, on the flop I'm worried about not being top PP. I probably fold to the reraise.
2. Raise to $20 on the turn? If he's on a flush draw make him pay before he finds out he missed it.
3. I probably call on the assumption that his PF call puts him on an overpair for the shortish-stack push. But I could be leaking big here.

SeattleJake

03-23-2005, 05:03 PM

1) looks fine, though you might as well put him all in on the flop. Chances are you're ahead and will stay that way.

2) maybe a min-raise on the turn, but otherwise i don't think he was going to bite at much. if he was going to call a min-raise on the river, then he'd have called your half-pot, so not much you can do.

3) I can't see him liking an inside straight/backdoor flush draw that much, so I figure he hit his set. The insta-push though (correct me if i'm wrong) is more indicative of two overcards, where you're a huge favorite.

-2(weight)*.90(lose vs set)*19
+2(weight)*.10(win vs set)*43
+1(weight)*.70(win vs other)*43
-1(weight)*.30(lose vs other)*19
expected value = -1.2

Sounds like a fold, though my estimates could be off, so who knows.

SeattleJake

03-23-2005, 05:14 PM

Or put another way, if you're more than 49% sure he's got a set then fold, otherwise call.

TakeMeToTheRiver

03-23-2005, 05:42 PM

On hand 3, I might have bet a little more on the flop, but that would just make the all-in raise a little easier to call. Same results.

On hand 2, I think you need to raise the turn whatever amount would give him good odds to draw dead for his flush. Probably around $10.

Although I can see myself playing them exactly the same.