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Trix

03-23-2005, 03:06 AM

Going through the hands I have requested the last couple of days, think both were loose, but dont remember really.

Is it ok to check this flop ?

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Preflop: Hero is MP with 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif.
1 fold, Hero raises, 2 folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, SB calls, BB raises, Hero folds, SB calls.

River: (9.50 BB) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
SB checks, BB bets, SB folds.

Final Pot: 10.50 BB

DrGutshot

03-23-2005, 03:14 AM

I play it exactly the same as long as you were gonna check behind the river which I'm sure you were going to do.

-DrG

Rico Suave

03-23-2005, 10:19 AM

Trix:

I assume you bet this turn, even with 2 opponents, b/c the coordination of the board, in combination with the lack of any aggression by your opponents, makes it likely they are calling with draws and your A high might well be good?

I dunno. I would almost always check behind with 2 opponents on that board. Once they both call on that flop, I figure that it is rare to take it down with a turn bet....I will get popped a decent amount of the time if I do bet......I am not so sure that I am ahead very often here (I think this might be a fundamental "weak" problem with my play) and if I am behind, I likely have 3 outs at bets. Am I the only one who thinks this way?

--Rico

Trix

03-23-2005, 10:54 AM

If I bet the flop, then I bet the turn aswell. I can see arguments for a flop check though.

I think I have given too many pots away by checking the turn 3way on a drawy board.

Here is a thing I didn´t think about some time ago:

When you bet the flop, they get 7-8:1 and can call with any pair, so when you get two calls on the flop, often someone will just have called to try and hit their 5 outer since it´s 3way.

I used to think that, well, both sure isn´t folding, but they dont need to. You just need to get rid of the guy with the pair, so you can win when the guy with the draw doesn´t hit.
If both has draws, then you get value /images/graemlins/smile.gif

There is ofcourse a risk of getting raised off the best hand or not getting a shot at your x outs. That isn´t that important in this particular hand as it´s not that great anyuway, if you had AK it would suck much more to get check-raised, but you probably still have to bet. You could check that heads up though.

Just something to think about.