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Klepton

03-22-2005, 10:22 PM

I believe I played this completely wrong, tell me how you would have played it

MP2 is 35/24 and CO is 20/10

Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (7 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif.
2 folds, MP2 raises, CO 3-bets, 1 fold, Hero calls, BB caps, MP2 calls, CO calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (16 SB) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif (4 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, MP2 raises, CO 3-bets, Hero calls, BB folds, MP2 calls.

Turn: (13 BB) T/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks, CO bets, Hero calls, MP2 raises, CO calls, Hero folds.

River: (18 BB) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
MP2 bets, CO calls.

Final Pot: 20 BB

on the flop i figured my runner spade outs were good, then on the turn i wanted to go to showdown, but after the checkraise i knew i was beat and folded.

private joker

03-22-2005, 10:29 PM

Gross. Fold the flop when it comes 2 more back to you. How can you think your hand is good? And since it's not, you're drawing to 2 outs plus a weak backdoor flush draw (read: one-card third nuts). You have 2.5 outs. Dump that crap. The first turn call is reckless spewing.

einbert

03-22-2005, 10:32 PM

I actually like capping this PF. A cap from a 24PFR doesn't tell you much at all and you don't want anyone to come in behind you if you can discourage them with their AQo or whatever.

I would fold when it's two back to me on the flop.

If not, definitely fold the turn the first time. If you're going to play here I think you need to raise, but I think folding is much better.

Klepton

03-22-2005, 10:33 PM

yeah the original title of this post was gonna be called "how not to play JJ"

i'n gonna give the results beause i knew what i should do, but i wanna get flamed for it

MP2 had AA and CO had KK

pokerkai

03-22-2005, 10:33 PM

PREFLOP: The openraise from a loosie and a possible isolation raise from a TAG...i dont mind the coldcall. Capping is probably to agro. When the BB caps like that, Im inclined to think your in some deep deep trouble.

FLOP: What are you hoping to accomplish with the flop bet? I fold to the 3bet.

TURN: Id fold to the first bet.

ThePenguin

03-22-2005, 11:00 PM

I believe that only a J helps you. Fold this on the flop. Another thing, what makes you think your spade outs are good?

PokerBob

03-22-2005, 11:20 PM

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I believe I played this completely wrong, tell me how you would have played it

MP2 is 35/24 and CO is 20/10

Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (7 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif.
2 folds, MP2 raises, CO 3-bets, 1 fold, Hero calls, BB caps, MP2 calls, CO calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (16 SB) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif (4 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, MP2 raises, CO 3-bets, Hero calls, BB folds, MP2 calls.

Turn: (13 BB) T/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks, CO bets, Hero calls, MP2 raises, CO calls, Hero folds.

River: (18 BB) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
MP2 bets, CO calls.

Final Pot: 20 BB

on the flop i figured my runner spade outs were good, then on the turn i wanted to go to showdown, but after the checkraise i knew i was beat and folded.

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I'm not opposed to dumping this pf oop, unless you know villains are total nuts.

ErrantNight

03-22-2005, 11:25 PM

if the CO knows MP2 could be raising light and is trying to isolate i'm actually not opposed to capping and leading any flop.

when it comes back two to me on that flop though, I fold.

it looks like the BB knew about my plan, was foiled by hero's bet, but smartly folded when it was two back

ErrantNight

03-22-2005, 11:28 PM

and since you cold-called instead of capped i don't lead this flop and fold for anything except for one bet from bb called in two places so you can close the action and peel one on a prayer.

gaming_mouse

03-22-2005, 11:30 PM

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Gross. Fold the flop when it comes 2 more back to you. How can you think your hand is good?

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jason_t

03-23-2005, 12:36 AM

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I'm not opposed to dumping this pf oop, unless you know villains are total nuts.

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