under raising rule interesting question

[john kane]

hi, last night at our society tournament we had this debate:
3 players see the flop:
chip stakes: player A 33,000ish, player B 35,000ish, player C 10,000.
flop comes and:

player A bets 3,000
player B raises 5,000 (to make it 8,000)
player C goes all in for a total of 10,000 (ie underraising it by 2,000)

now, player A, faced with a raise and a under-rereraise still had about 30,000.

can player A reraise?????

some of us thought no, as he was faced with an underraise. however some of us thought yes, as he shoud be able to reraise player B raise of 5000.

those who thought yes, suggested that otherwise player B could manipulate his raise size to ensure if player C were to go all in then player A could or could not reraise (depending on what player B would aim for) i.e if player B wanted player A to reraise, then he would only raise 3000 (to 6000 in total), so if player C were to go all in (a reraise of then 4000), then player A could reraise.

just a interesting one i thought, what are your thoughts, can player A reraise???

[mosch]

This is explained in the excellent Robert's Rules of Poker (http://www.diamondcs.net/~thecoach/RobsPkrRules5.htm).

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All raises must be equal to or greater than the size of the previous bet or raise on that betting round, except for an all-in wager. A player who has already checked or called may not subsequently raise an all-in bet that is less than the full size of the last bet or raise. (The half-the-size rule for reopening the betting is for limit poker only.)

Example: Player A bets $100 and Player B raises $100 more, making the total bet $200. If Player C goes all in for less than $300 total (not a full $100 raise), and Player A calls, then Player B has no option to raise again, because he wasn’t fully raised. (Player A could have raised, because Player B raised.)

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In the situation you described, player A can re-raise.