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Rocco
03-22-2005, 06:13 AM
SB in this hand is SL-P-A and had just called for us to start build some pots. CO is T-A-A, but I only have about 50 hands played against him...

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (8 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

BB ($109.95)
UTG ($86.2)
Hero ($98.95)
MP1 ($198.25)
MP2 ($80.75)
CO ($105.3)
Button ($54)
SB ($245.9)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.5.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $5</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls $5, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB (poster) raises to $11.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $7, CO calls $7.

Flop: ($37) 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $20</font>, Hero folds

Do I raise here to find out where I stand? What if I didn't have CO left to act?

ginko
03-22-2005, 06:57 AM
A passive player reraising you PF? What kind of hands is he raising with? Would he play QK/QJ/AQ to a bet?

Typically I fold on overcards, but you do have position. But if he's passive PF, then the only hands he could have would be AA-QQ/AK-AQ, right?

How does he view you? TAG, LAG, fish??

Rocco
03-22-2005, 07:07 AM
Well, based on the fact that he's passive pre-flop I'd put him on AA-QQ/AK. Since I'm only ahead of AK, it's probably a good idea to fold, right?

Reef
03-22-2005, 07:20 AM
It looks to me like you're beat. I would've folded also.

mishafp
03-22-2005, 10:22 AM
"based on the fact that he's passive pre-flop I'd put him on AA-QQ/AK"

If thats your read on him, would you have folded to any post-flop bet unless you hit your set? If so, maybe you should consider folding to the re-raise pre-flop.

lehighguy
03-22-2005, 11:01 AM
Fold.

zaxx19
03-22-2005, 11:42 AM
Seems like yu have this one figured out....

Perhaps in Scandanavia this muck is considered weak tight but here in the USA its an insta muck to a normal Tightish player.

Id consider mucking even if it was a under flop.

kongo_totte
03-22-2005, 11:44 AM
No, in the Stockholm-area of scandinavia, this is standard ;D