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1C5
03-21-2005, 11:16 PM
Again, I somehow manage to get 3rd when I have the majority of the chips. /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Do you make the same play here? I was assuming (wrongly so) that the middle stack would fold everything besides premium cards in order to play for 2nd. I was wrong as he pushed with KJ which obviously I had to call and he hit a K and left me short.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (3 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Hero (t4350)
SB (t1100)
BB (t2550)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1500</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to t2550 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls t1050.

Flop: (t5300) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Turn: (t5300) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: (t5300) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t5300

Benholio
03-21-2005, 11:22 PM
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which obviously I had to call

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Anytime you will obviously have to call a reraise from your deepest opponent, you should just push. I'd have pushed these 2's without thinking twice about it.

Phil Van Sexton
03-21-2005, 11:26 PM
If you were willing to call his allin, you should have gone allin in the first place. PUSH.

1C5
03-21-2005, 11:30 PM
Yeah I know I should have pushed, I thought the 1500 raise would have got the job done, but next time will be a push.

1C5
03-21-2005, 11:31 PM
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If you were willing to call his allin, you should have gone allin in the first place. PUSH.

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Would have you pushed with 22 here also?

Nottom
03-21-2005, 11:32 PM
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If you were willing to call his allin, you should have gone allin in the first place. PUSH.

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As a corrollary to this, if you don't want to have to call don't raise so much. I will make it 1000 here somewhat often, as it is enough to get a fold most of the time but gives you a chance to get away if he comes over the top if you don't feel like gambling.

Benholio
03-21-2005, 11:36 PM
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If you were willing to call his allin, you should have gone allin in the first place. PUSH.

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As a corrollary to this, if you don't want to have to call don't raise so much. I will make it 1000 here somewhat often, as it is enough to get a fold most of the time but gives you a chance to get away if he comes over the top if you don't feel like gambling.

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The only thing that sucks about that, is all of the times you lay your 2's down and he doesn't have a pair, you've just made a big mistake.

I know that wasn't the point of your reply, just wanted to point that out.

citanul
03-21-2005, 11:44 PM
i'd push 22 here all the time.

citanul

Nottom
03-22-2005, 12:42 AM
yeah i'm gonna push with 2s. But with ahnds like A5 or something it sometimes helps to have an out, although usually this is more of a concern when the BB has a few more chips.

curtains
03-22-2005, 01:11 AM
Easy allin IMO, however theres not much of a difference between 1500 and allin. Not really sure why you chose the former?? What's your reason?

1C5
03-22-2005, 01:13 AM
No reason really, thought forsure he would have folded anything but premium hands for a 1500 raise.

Will go all in next time.

J-Lo
03-22-2005, 01:35 AM
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No reason really, thought forsure he would have folded anything but premium hands for a 1500 raise.

Will go all in next time.

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I forget who told me this, but,
--"Don't act based on your oponent should do, act based on what they WILL do."

jaydoggie
03-22-2005, 02:03 AM
i think lori posted it a week ago or so

curtains
03-22-2005, 02:22 AM
I think hed probably call for allin too.