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benkath1

03-21-2005, 02:40 AM

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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
2 folds, UTG+2 raises, Hero 3-bets, 3 folds, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+2 caps, Hero calls, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (20 SB) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+2 bets, Hero raises, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+2 3-bets, Hero calls, SB calls, BB calls.

 Put UTG+2 on KK with the 3-bet, the rest I'm not sure. 

Turn: (16 BB) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+2 bets, Hero raises, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+2 3-bets, Hero caps, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+2 calls.

Bingo, now I've got em. 
River: (32 BB) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif (4 players)
SB bets, BB folds, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls.

 Huh?!? wtf are you sitting on over there? I don't suppose I can lay this down now, but where did you come from? U guys raise?? 

Final Pot: 35 BB

Bradyams

03-21-2005, 02:43 AM

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 Put UTG+2 on KK with the 3-bet, the rest I'm not sure. 

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Don't put someone on a specific hand. Put them on a range of hands.

caggin

03-21-2005, 02:52 AM

I certainly don't fold, but I think I just call down and hope he's bluffing. But I fully expect to see a 6 here, maybe 66.

Aaron W.

03-21-2005, 02:59 AM

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 Put UTG+2 on KK with the 3-bet, the rest I'm not sure. 

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And why not AA?

Elbie

03-21-2005, 04:37 AM

Seems like you lost to SBs 6 (or66). A raise on the river would be chip-spewing but of course you have to call this down. I´m fairly sure that UTG+2 has AA or KK. If SB shows you a 6 or 2 and takes down this pot just put him on your buddy list

TripleH68

03-21-2005, 05:11 AM

No sense getting 3-bet.

benkath1

03-21-2005, 12:50 PM

SB shows 10 /images/graemlins/club.gif6 /images/graemlins/club.gif for rivered str8.
UTG+2 shows.....

K /images/graemlins/diamond.gif4 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif for buddy list candidate number 2.
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bozlax

03-21-2005, 12:57 PM

I'd say SB makes the buddy-list as well. He did, after all, call two-and-a-half bets cold OOP with T6sooooooooted.

EDIT: He also double-cold-called raise-reraise on the flop and turn with a double-gutshot-not-to-the-nuts...send him Christmas cards. Granted, he had odds for the call, at the time, in each case, but given the action this seems pretty loose to me.

KaiShin

03-21-2005, 01:00 PM

I think he did, since UTG+2 was buddy list candidate #2 /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Reminds me of the time I was sitting with two maniacs in a full ring that would raise/cap with mid-pair. I took down a $33 pot with just pocket As. Later took down a $25 with AQo TPTK. They would just trade stacks back and forth, but I took a nice chunk out of both of them.

tiltaholic

03-21-2005, 01:09 PM

except, for the pf call, i think SB did ok during the rest of the hand.

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Granted, he had odds for the call, at the time, in each case

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point one.

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but given the action this seems pretty loose to me.

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point two: if I were him I would think all of my outs were almost guaranteed to pull down a monster pot. would a reasonable player go nuts preflop T9?

and. it's not like he checked the river....

hicherbie

03-21-2005, 01:37 PM

with that board, river is an call to a bet. when fish wake up to a one card straight its time for me to call down.