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ihardlyknowher
03-21-2005, 01:30 AM
Only had 22 hands on Villain, but he seems slightly-loose and passive.

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Preflop: Hero is CO with 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 :#A500AF(Villain)/ raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Villain bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button folds, BB folds, UTG+1 folds, Villain calls.

Turn: (7.25 BB) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Villain checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Villain raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, Villain calls $0.25 (All-In).

River: (12.37 BB) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: 12.37 BB
deepsquat
03-21-2005, 01:32 AM
id definately fold to the villain turn C/R, u are toast. Nice flop play though.
milesdyson
03-21-2005, 01:32 AM
If it wasn't another quarter to put him all in, fold the turn to his check raise.

edit: I'm just saying this because I hate folding when people are almost all-in. You probably still should have folded.
deepsquat
03-21-2005, 01:33 AM
ok, a turn 3bet put villain all-in, in that case its prob a good play seeing u wont have to pay the river. Otherwise id fold.
Siegmund
03-21-2005, 01:53 AM
Anyone else thinking of 3-betting this one preflop to make it expensive for the button and blinds to stay in?

Aside from that, looks good - as other mentioned that checkraise is the end for you if it comes from someone who isn't a short stack. At low limits people seem to love throwing their last five bets at random garbage...
tiltaholic
03-21-2005, 02:01 AM
agree with the other posters concerning postflop, but i would have folded preflop.
deepsquat
03-21-2005, 02:14 AM
Wouldnt folding 88 pf here be a mistake?
ihardlyknowher
03-21-2005, 02:29 AM
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Wouldnt folding 88 pf here be a mistake?

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I can see arguments on both sides. But, there had been a lot of cold-calling at the table, and I was pretty sure there would be at least 3 or 4 players to the flop. So I think calling was correct.
SteveL91
03-21-2005, 03:01 AM
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Anyone else thinking of 3-betting this one preflop to make it expensive for the button and blinds to stay in?



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A move like this, in my opinion, is very read based, both with regards to the raiser, but to the blinds as well. If the raiser is a habitual raiser, and the blinds are tight, then I'm most likely 3-betting; otherwise, I'm cold-calling (if the table has no qualms about calling two cold) or folding (this, again, is somewhat read based, but it's a combination of table environment and read).