Girl Advice Needed for a Pu$$y

[Peca277]

Okay, so last night I went to a dinner organized by my friend John for his girlfriend's birthday. At said dinner, there was one of John's other friends who I had never met before, Sarah. First impression walking up to the table was... wow, Sarah is pretty damn hot. So I, of course, choose the empty seat right next to her.

She's a very talkative girl and immediately asks me about myself, what I do etc. Immediately we have a connection. About an hour later we all leave the restaurant to head over to a local bar.

She was the last one to get to the bar, and we're all seated with no open seats by me. She sits on the end 3 seats away, but when someone gets up to use the bathroom she moves a seat closer with just birthday girl in between us. The 3 of us have a little convo, but it was hard to hear with the seating arrangement so I start talking to the guys on my other side about the WVA game that's looking pretty interesting. Birthday girl gets up to use the bathroom and immediately Sarah hops into the seat right next to me. For about 10-15 minutes she chats with the other girls at her end of the table, but then I hop into that convo and all of a sudden it's just the 2 of us talking.

For about the next 2 hours just the 2 of us chatted it up about world events, our distaste for the way the political system works currently, etc. A little after midnight she says she needs to get home because she has a lot of crap to do tomorrow before she heads back. She asks if I would walk her to her car because it's late and she doesn't feel safe. So I hop on that like a fly on [censored]... but then when we get to the car I pu$$y out and go for the hug instead of a kiss. I think it's obvious she wanted it because she didn't just try to hop in her car, despite the rain... but I've been out of the game for about 3 years now (broke up with gf 6 mos ago) so I need to get back into the swing of things.

Anyways, over the course of the night she gave me her email address. 2 or 3 of the other people out with us commented to me after she left that we seemed to be hitting it off. I know I [censored] it up at the end, but I'm wondering what advice y'all have on possibly salvaging the situation.


p.s. Do I get any brownie points for almost picking a girl up in front of my ex-gf? /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Michael Davis]

"p.s. Do I get any brownie points for almost picking a girl up in front of my ex-gf?"

You don't get any points for almosts, ever.

-Michael

[pshreck]

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"p.s. Do I get any brownie points for almost picking a girl up in front of my ex-gf?"

You don't get any points for almosts, ever.

-Michael

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What about horshoes and hand grenades?

[slickpoppa]

I think the fact that she intentionally moved closer to you and asked you to walk her back her car is about a 95% reliable tell that she is interested. Not kissing her was a pussy move, but I don't think it really jeopardizes anything.

I think your next move is obvious. You have her e-mail address, so email her in the next couple of days and suggest that you get together for a drink sometime, preferably 1 on 1.

[Chairman Wood]

I think you are fine. This is one of those situations where you are doing well if you approach everything slowly, however, if you do cross the line the tinest bit you could really f things up. Say if you did try to kiss her and she wasn't in to it there goes your new job and all that. Things aren't really going to be too much different than if you did kiss her than if you didn't. You have a lot of good things that could come along with this situation outside of a new relationship. Don't mess it up.I think it would be best to just be slow with this one. You got her e-mail address just ask her out. Good work.

[Chairman Wood]

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Not kissing her was a pussy move, but I don't think it really jeopardizes anything.


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Could be but I think it was the right one being the fact that she could help Hero's career out.

[wacki]

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"p.s. Do I get any brownie points for almost picking a girl up in front of my ex-gf?"

You don't get any points for almosts, ever.

-Michael

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nice response /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[stanky]

Dude, stop sweatin you didn't mess anything up, nice play.

-Pete

[Tyler Durden]

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I think the fact that she intentionally moved closer to you and asked you to walk her back her car is about a 95% reliable tell that she is interested. Not kissing her was a pussy move, but I don't think it really jeopardizes anything.

I think your next move is obvious. You have her e-mail address, so email her in the next couple of days and suggest that you get together for a drink sometime, preferably 1 on 1.

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[cardcounter0]

raise the flop.

[wacki]

Tyler Durden has spoken.

End of thread.

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[Peca277]

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Tyler Durden has spoken.

End of thread.

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Well, technically... Tyler only quoted someone and did not himself speak /images/graemlins/wink.gif

Thanks for the advice guys, I'm working on an email now so any more suggestions are obviously welcome.

[Chairman Wood]

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I'm working on an email now so any more suggestions are obviously welcome.


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Be brief, don't ramble.

[siccjay]

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Dude, stop sweatin you didn't mess anything up, nice play.

-Pete

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Well.....thats not entirely true. He "probably" has one more chance to get physical with her.

Not kissing a girl when the time is right is really, really, bad. She was more than likely into you. Give it a couple days (so you don't seem desperate) and email her. Get her phone number and call her to set up a date. YOU pick somewhere to go and DONT act like it's a date. (I know, I know this seems weird) Just be casual about it and say "Hey, I'm going (out to eat, out for coffee, out to a movie. etc etc whatever) would you care to join me?

Been out of the game awhile? I have an eBook you can read. PM me if intrested.

[siccjay]

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Thanks for the advice guys, I'm working on an email now so any more suggestions are obviously welcome.

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Wait until tomorrow.

[JaBlue]

Did you get her number?

Why the [censored] are you interested in a WVA game? Your only interest should be in booing them.

[justin D]

Make her a drawing.

[eggzz]

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Thanks for the advice guys, I'm working on an email now so any more suggestions are obviously welcome.

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Wait until tomorrow.

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Agree with this, wait at least until Monday night to send the email. Thats good timing. Even Tuesday, but no later than that.

[ClassicBob]

Build her a cake or something.

[IggyWH]

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raise the flop.

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I like the slow-play here. Don't want to screw up the possible job just because his read was wrong (sure the way he typed it, it sounded like she wanted the sausage, but maybe in reality she didn't).

[ftball0000]

You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. I would think a Michael Peca fan would understand that one

-Ftball

[admo415]

why didn't you get her phone number also?

[admo415]

Does anyone else notice the Napoleon Dynamite quotes here, there have been two so far and I liked them /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[istewart]

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Does anyone else notice the Napoleon Dynamite quotes here, there have been two so far and I liked them /images/graemlins/smile.gif

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DON'T BRING THIS MOVIE UP.

[sublime]

these is a REAL easy one. send her an email and compliiment here on how intelligent she seemed and how you can't recall the last time somebody held your attention the way she did. then say to her that you a little embarressed to admit that you wanted to give her a goodnight kiss, but felt it would have been to forward at that point. then ask her out to a nice resteraunt and bam there you go.

[sublime]

Dude, stop sweatin you didn't mess anything up, nice play

i agree 100%. as long as you follow up with letting her know you WANTED to kiss, but restrained yourself out of respect.

[sublime]

your advice is horrible

[deacsoft]

Cold call any preflop bet, raise the turn, and surely call an all-in.

[siccjay]

Sorry man but you gave horrible advice.

Do not email her and compliment her, that would be bad. DEFINITELY do not mention something about wanting to kiss her and not doing it. That would be worse.

[siccjay]

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your advice is horrible

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LMAO

[wacki]

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your advice is horrible

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What is so bad about his advice?

[Michael Davis]

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DEFINATLEY [sic] do not mention something about wanting to kiss her and not doing it. That would be worse.


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[admo415]

I think that is a little overboard on the sensitivity side and reeks of lack of confidence, girls lke confidence not limp noodles /images/graemlins/blush.gif

[morgan180]

it's a little weak-tight but you're still fine. just play solid post-flop.

[morgan180]

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"p.s. Do I get any brownie points for almost picking a girl up in front of my ex-gf?"

You don't get any points for almosts, ever.

-Michael

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awesome

[DcifrThs]

the hug can very easily turn into a kiss fyi. as she turns away disheartened that you didn't kiss her, gently grab her hip and pull her towards you and kiss her...

as for your next step: send your resume in, and email her.

tell her you really enjoyed the time you spent with her that night and you did indeed send your resume in to the service or whatever it is...then say that you'd like to take her out for a drink whenever her schedule allows or something along those lines.

she will most likely say yes and take it from there...DONT YOU DARE mess that up...although given the info i think you're doin pretty well on her "gentleman-o-meter"

unfortunately you are also rankng quite high on her "wuss-o-meter" but the latter is not as important as teh former in the long run.

-Barron

[sublime]

I think that is a little overboard on the sensitivity side and reeks of lack of confidence, girls like confidence not limp noodles

nope its perfect for a girl like this (smart and seems confident, notice her making the initial approach etc)

she will appreciate the way the email is composed and gets right to the point that he wants to go out on a date with her. this whole "yeah im going out to eat, like do you eanna come if your hungry?" approach is for 16yr olds. act like a man.

you guys obviosly dont understand how important it is to compliment a woman. all chicks ever hear is how good they look, blah blah blah. compliment them on something they are not used to an you stick out in thier minds.

rookies /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[sublime]

sensitivity side and reeks of lack of confidence,

no, beating around the bush (like almost every other guy she has probably been out with) reeks of lack of confidence.

[siccjay]

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I think that is a little overboard on the sensitivity side and reeks of lack of confidence, girls lke confidence not limp noodles /images/graemlins/blush.gif

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I agree.

[siccjay]

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you guys obviosly dont understand how important it is to compliment a woman. all chicks ever hear is how good they look, blah blah blah. compliment them on something they are not used to an you stick out in thier minds.

rookies /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

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This is the only thing you are right about. But saying shes intellgent isn't very original.

He hasn't posted in awhile so hopefully he's reading the book I sent him. He will be alright.

[Macdaddy Warsaw]

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sensitivity side and reeks of lack of confidence,

no, beating around the bush (like almost every other guy she has probably been out with) reeks of lack of confidence.

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For what it's worth, Sublime, I'm actually going to take the to the point approach with this girl I'm trying to woo. She's told me she's not interested in a boyfriend (No, this does not translate to "She's not interested in you.", she's a senior and I imagine she's either too busy or it's too close to the end of school for her to get into a relationship.) but I'm going to be stubborn. We're going on some crazy "non-date" thing (dinner, etc.), at which point I'll get straight-forward in compliments and in an attempti to get a "real" date out of her.

Results to come, I suppose.

[slickpoppa]

Telling her that you wanted to kiss her does not really accomplish much, but she might might interpret it the wrong way. (In poker terms, it is a small favorite at best, big underdog at worst move). I agree that you should be forward in the e-mail, but you don't have to fawn over her. Just say that you really enjoyed the conversation with her and you would like to get together with her again. Unless she is totally clueless, she will know what's up. Keep it simple.

[admo415]

There is a big difference between being confident and being rude and retarded. I am not saying that he has to be like, "Yo Biiaaattttcccchhh, I know you were all over my balls, so I think me and you should get together for a little something something".

Also, you said, "you guys obviously don’t understand how important it is to compliment a woman. all chicks ever hear is how good they look, blah blah blah. Compliment them on something they are not used to an you stick out in their minds."

You would also stick out if you didn't go about
complimenting them all the time...no?

Remember "Act Like a Man" BE CONFIDENT. I just said that you should not say that you really wanted to kiss her but failed to do so because you were embarrassed, that is like 6th grade.

[Peca277]

I'm gathering that waiting til tomorrow is probably best so tomorrow evening I'll send her an email. It will consist of letting her know I sent in my resume, that I really enjoyed our conversation the other night, compliment her on something, and mention I'd like to get together sometime. Missing anything?

[istewart]

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I'm gathering that waiting til tomorrow is probably best so tomorrow evening I'll send her an email. It will consist of letting her know I sent in my resume, that I really enjoyed our conversation the other night, compliment her on something, and mention I'd like to get together sometime. Missing anything?

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Make sure to mention you happened to adopt a black Jewish baby over the weekend.

[stanky]

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no, beating around the bush (like almost every other guy she has probably been out with) reeks of lack of confidence.

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I agree he should be straight forward and just ask her out. I don't think however he should mention how he wanted to kiss her till after he actually kisses her. Mentioning it before = pathetic, after = sweet, sensitve, romantic(if done right)

-Pete

[Michael Davis]

"'Yo Biiaaattttcccchhh, I know you were all over my balls, so I think me and you should get together for a little something something.'"

I am so using this.

-Michael

[Peca277]

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Make sure to mention you happened to adopt a black Jewish baby over the weekend.

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There are black jews?

[slickpoppa]

Hall of famer rod carew

[stanky]

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I'm gathering that waiting til tomorrow is probably best so tomorrow evening I'll send her an email. It will consist of letting her know I sent in my resume, that I really enjoyed our conversation the other night, compliment her on something, and mention I'd like to get together sometime. Missing anything?

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Delete your avatar before you get to the point where she might come across it.

-Pete

[Michael Davis]

"There are black jews?"

99% of them are in Ethiopia.

-Michael

[stanky]

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Hall of famer rod carew

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He converted

-Pete

[Boris]

If you're too chicken to ask her out you can always settle for stalking her.

[AlienCorpse]

Whatever you do dont let her know you created a post about her on some internet forum where a bunch of porn addicted gamblers hang out.

[siccjay]

IMO...the email should be short and sweet. If you feel the need that you must compliment her (which is ludicrous) then make SURE that you do it in a jokingly sort of humourous way.

I would get her phone # and ask her out over the phone.

The guy that keeps saying be a man is right. Real men do not supplicate and compliment a woman they just met.

[sublime]

I don't think however he should mention how he wanted to kiss her till after he actually kisses her. Mentioning it before = pathetic, after = sweet, sensitve, romantic(if done right)

you know what, thats perfect.

[siccjay]

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Whatever you do dont let her know you created a post about her on some internet forum where a bunch of porn addicted gamblers hang out.

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Priceless advice.

[sublime]

He hasn't posted in awhile so hopefully he's reading the book I sent him. He will be alright.

you really read a book on how to woo women? /images/graemlins/confused.gif

[istewart]

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Whatever you do dont let her know you created a post about her on some internet forum where a bunch of porn addicted gamblers hang out.

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hahahaha

[siccjay]

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I don't think however he should mention how he wanted to kiss her till after he actually kisses her. Mentioning it before = pathetic, after = sweet, sensitve, romantic(if done right)

you know what, thats perfect.

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I don't think this is bad at all. I wouldn't do say it the 2nd time you hang out though. That is probably a little too early.

[Victor]

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Hall of famer rod carew




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he converted.

[siccjay]

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He hasn't posted in awhile so hopefully he's reading the book I sent him. He will be alright.

you really read a book on how to woo women? /images/graemlins/confused.gif

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All my life I've never had trouble with the girls that I didn't really like, but the ones that I really wanted I would always [censored] it up with. Being a straight male that was tired of getting sub-par pussy and dating girls that I didn't really care about I decided to do some research on the subject and find out what I was doing wrong with the girls I wanted to keep around.

When you seen there was plenty of money to be won playing poker didn't you read books to learn how to win more and more of it? Don't people still go "You read books about poker?"

[sublime]

Real men do not supplicate and compliment a woman they just met.

boooo. i compliemnt total strangers all the time. EVERY single time i have said to a female co-worker or even the ladt who makes my friggin sandwiches that i like what they ahve doen with thier hair or ask them if they are wearing a new perfume they ALWAYS blush and say ohh thanks in a way that makes me know they wish they got this kind of stuff more often.

i was probably wrong when i told the OP to come right out and say that he wanted to kiss her, it can come across as TOO forward. tghe mention that he should wait until AFTER the first kiss is perfect. like right afterwards and say "i wish i had done that the first night we met" is flawless.

[istewart]

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He hasn't posted in awhile so hopefully he's reading the book I sent him. He will be alright.

you really read a book on how to woo women? /images/graemlins/confused.gif

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All my life I've never had trouble with the girls that I didn't really like, but the ones that I really wanted I would always [censored] it up with. Being a straight male that was tired of getting sub-par pussy and dating girls that I didn't really care about I decided to do some research on the subject and find out what I was doing wrong with the girls I wanted to keep around.

When you seen there was plenty of money to be won playing poker didn't you read books to learn how to win more and more of it? Don't people still go "You read books about poker?"

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POTD.

[admo415]

What Book?

[slickpoppa]

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Hall of famer rod carew




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he converted.

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I think any religion that says converting to the religion, as opposed to being born into the religion, makes any difference to god is completely idiotic. But I think a lot of religious principles are idiotic.

[siccjay]

I see what you are saying and thats fine. The compliments you mentioned are good because they show that you are paying attention. If you notice the second "compliment" you mentioned isn't even a compliment at all. You noticed that she was wearing a new perfume. THAT is what women like, they like that you noticed. There are times when complimeting is fine but the first email is not the place. I still think he needs to do it humorously if done at all. Compliments that are good are ones that are not heard by beautiful women daily. You are beautiful, you are smart, etc etc.

While I don't think the "I wish I had done that the first night" line isn't too bad, I don't see a point really.

[sublime]

While I don't think the "I wish I had done that the first night" line isn't too bad, I don't see a point really.

its just icing on the cake /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Victor]

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its from a song. adam sandler's hanakkuh song

[Cracker]

Your ATM card wasn't missing when you got home, was it?

[billyjex]

I haven't read any responses yet, and I'm sure someone already said it, but you are a pussy for not getting her goddamn #. E-mails are for dorks.

Not kissing her wasn't a sin, sometimes girls don't want to move fast, or at least it's not the end of the world. Just keep talking to her.

[admo415]

yep, said it up at the top

[ObnxNole]

You should have slipped her the Shocker! /images/graemlins/shocked.gif

[siccjay]

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I haven't read any responses yet, and I'm sure someone already said it, but you are a pussy for not getting her goddamn #. E-mails are for dorks.

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I agree he should have got her number but emails aren't for dorks anymore.

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Not kissing her wasn't a sin, sometimes girls don't want to move fast, or at least it's not the end of the world. Just keep talking to her.

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Not making a move when you feel you should is a sin. Even if she doesn't want to move that fast. If she doesn't want a kiss then she will let you know. At least she won't think you are a wussy. If she denies you when you lean to kiss her or when you are tugging on her panties it doesn't mean give up for good, it just means at that moment.

[Peca277]

One bump to see if the day crew has anything to add.

[Michael Davis]

Tell her you have a new CD and she should come to your house:

http://www.musicmax65.com/files/haley_mills.jpg

-Michael

[kemystery]

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your advice is horrible

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I wanna see that ebook.............

[Shajen]

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One bump to see if the day crew has anything to add.

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I say continue the line you are on.

No need to get all hasty. Best of luck.

[IndieMatty]

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I think you are fine. This is one of those situations where you are doing well if you approach everything slowly, however, if you do cross the line the tinest bit you could really f things up. Say if you did try to kiss her and she wasn't in to it there goes your new job and all that. Things aren't really going to be too much different than if you did kiss her than if you didn't. You have a lot of good things that could come along with this situation outside of a new relationship. Don't mess it up.I think it would be best to just be slow with this one. You got her e-mail address just ask her out. Good work.

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Zactly, I'm getting back on my horse soon too after a similar 6 month layoff. It's a good thing. Good luck man.

[morgan180]

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Whatever you do dont let her know you created a post about her on some internet forum where a bunch of porn addicted gamblers hang out.

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and definitely don't compare her + you to a poker hand. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[daveymck]

Is it the ebook that says to speak to a girl you find hot within 7 seconds, and talks about repetative touching etc?

If so have read it, I dont think it applies here though, he spent 2 hours chatting away 1 on when out in a group, she is interested, sounds as though he is into her and sounds like he is more looking for relationships than lays (I may have misread it but he would have risked kissing her if just after the lay). I think that ebook is good for confidance building and if applied getting dates and probably repeat dates but it aint a manual for building anything like a proper relationship.

Do a two line email enjoyed talking to you other night fancy doing it again, heres my number etc. She will call or send you her number. job done.

[ZeeJustin]

IMHO your biggest mistake was not getting her phone number. There are several advantages to not kissing her that night, but I can't think of a single advantage that comes from not asking for her phone number.

Edit: if i were you, I would ask for her phone number in the email. You could say you have some questions about the resume process or some similarly appropriate question, and use that conversation to segway into asking her out.

[pokerjo22]

I haven't read any of the replies but this:

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so I start talking to the guys on my other side about the WVA game that's looking pretty interesting

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was probably a bigger mistake than this:

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but then when we get to the car I pu$$y out and go for the hug instead of a kiss

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But anyway, you have her email so don't sweat it. Go ask her out for dinner.

[pokerjo22]

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EVERY single time i have said to a female co-worker...that i like what they ahve doen with thier hair or ask them if they are wearing a new perfume they ALWAYS blush and say ohh thanks in a way that makes me know they wish they got this kind of stuff more often.

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And the sexual harassment suit is when?

j/k /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[jakethebake]

you broke up with a girl 6 months ago and are just now getting out again? that's pathetic.

[Peca277]

We dated for over 2 years, and we still had a lease together. We're very good friends and all, but it hasn't been the best environment for me to move on per se. I don't think I was even ready to move on until last month. Now I've made my peace... sorry it took longer than what you consider respectable.

[jakethebake]

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We dated for over 2 years, and we still had a lease together. We're very good friends and all, but it hasn't been the best environment for me to move on per se. I don't think I was even ready to move on until last month. Now I've made my peace... sorry it took longer than what you consider respectable.

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I was just playin'...I had to post something really ignorant here so as not to disappoint anyone. Now get back out there.

[IndieMatty]

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We dated for over 2 years, and we still had a lease together. We're very good friends and all, but it hasn't been the best environment for me to move on per se. I don't think I was even ready to move on until last month. Now I've made my peace... sorry it took longer than what you consider respectable.

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I was just playin'...I had to post something really ignorant here so as not to disappoint anyone. Now get back out there.

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hahaah

[Peca277]

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We dated for over 2 years, and we still had a lease together. We're very good friends and all, but it hasn't been the best environment for me to move on per se. I don't think I was even ready to move on until last month. Now I've made my peace... sorry it took longer than what you consider respectable.

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I was just playin'...I had to post something really ignorant here so as not to disappoint anyone. Now get back out there.

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At least this thread has managed to avoid both the hot tub and steaming pile of [censored] pics. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[pokerjo22]

Not for long now...

[meep_42]

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I'm gathering that waiting til tomorrow is probably best so tomorrow evening I'll send her an email. It will consist of letting her know I sent in my resume, that I really enjoyed our conversation the other night, compliment her on something, and mention I'd like to get together sometime. Missing anything?

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Make sure you mention that the email was carefully crafted by the denziens of an internet message board, too.

-d

[Tuco]

Peca is the man. Loved him when he was here in Vancouver. It's too bad he had to bonk our star goalies wife to get his ass traded, or he would still be here. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Anyway, onto your situation. I guess i'm the only one who thinks you shouldn't mention anything about your resume or a job. She already knows you want a job. Telling her in your first email is also telling her that you are more interested in the job than her. Bad move no matter what you are more interested in.

Tuco.

[Peca277]

You raise an interesting point, but she was the one who brought up the possibility of getting me a job, and reiterated to email her about it. Does that change anything in your opinion? My feeling is that if I ask her out she'll know I want more than just a job /images/graemlins/smile.gif

I am glad to know there are 2 people who actually know who Michael Peca is! It was disappointing when he held out from the Sabres for a $100k difference of opinion... but it was exciting seeing his open ice hits while we had him. Let's just hope there will be a hockey season next year.

[fluxrad]

1. Ask her out, you blubbering vagina. This girl likes you if what you've said is anything near what actually happened that night. Talking to a bunch of guys you don't know on the internet isn't going to make this happen any faster.

2. Make absolutely sure in the email you tell her how big your donk is. Girls love a guy with a big donk, so make sure you don't forget to tell her about it.

3. Watch The Tao Of Steve.

[jakethebake]

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Nice post!

[Bluffoon]

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your advice is horrible

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What is so bad about his advice?

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First off, contact the girl right away. Despite what all the "players" will tell you, you don't look desperate and wimpy, you look interested and confident. (just be self-assured about it and don't beg or do anything disgraceful along those lines. )

And for gods sake, ask her out on a date. Tell her you think she is cute and you really like her and ask her if she wants to go for dinner or something.

Acting all aloof and disinterested will just make you look like the insecure ass you are if you act like this. Don't be afraid to show her you like her.

[jakethebake]

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One bump to see if the day crew has anything to add.

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My advice: ignore anything siccjay has to say about how to treat/get/talk to or anything else to do with women at any time in any situation...ever.

[Bluffoon]

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Sorry man but you gave horrible advice.

Do not email her and compliment her, that would be bad. DEFINITELY do not mention something about wanting to kiss her and not doing it. That would be worse.

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I actually partially agree with Jay here. Complimenting her is good. Apologizing or making excuses for not kissing her is lame. Don't even go there. It wasn't a major error although he could have kissed her for sure and it is best to not bring it up. He just has to make sure he kisses her the next time he sees her.

[Bluffoon]

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I think that is a little overboard on the sensitivity side and reeks of lack of confidence, girls like confidence not limp noodles

nope its perfect for a girl like this (smart and seems confident, notice her making the initial approach etc)

she will appreciate the way the email is composed and gets right to the point that he wants to go out on a date with her. this whole "yeah im going out to eat, like do you eanna come if your hungry?" approach is for 16yr olds. act like a man.

you guys obviosly dont understand how important it is to compliment a woman. all chicks ever hear is how good they look, blah blah blah. compliment them on something they are not used to an you stick out in thier minds.
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This is the best advice I have seen yet! Women are judged on their looks and are very insecure about their appearance. Your woman will adore you if you constantly compliment her. I never even call my women by their names. I always call them cutie or beautiful. They love that. trust me.

[Bluffoon]

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You raise an interesting point, but she was the one who brought up the possibility of getting me a job, and reiterated to email her about it. Does that change anything in your opinion? My feeling is that if I ask her out she'll know I want more than just a job /images/graemlins/smile.gif

I am glad to know there are 2 people who actually know who Michael Peca is! It was disappointing when he held out from the Sabres for a $100k difference of opinion... but it was exciting seeing his open ice hits while we had him. Let's just hope there will be a hockey season next year.

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Definitely drop the job talk for now. If she thinks you just want to use her to get you a job you are going to wind up with no job and no woman either.

[Bluffoon]

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My advice: ignore anything siccjay has to say about how to treat/get/talk to or anything else to do with women at any time in any situation...ever.

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Take it from a couple of guys who have been around the block a few times....

This is the best advice I have seen in this thread yet.

[Tyler Durden]

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Yes, it was. Still missing. The bank is mailing me a new one.

[FoxwoodsFiend]

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then say to her that you a little embarressed to admit that you wanted to give her a goodnight kiss, but felt it would have been to forward at that point.

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You cannt be serious...admitting to be too lame to go for a kiss is not exactly a way to get points here...

[siccjay]

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I think that is a little overboard on the sensitivity side and reeks of lack of confidence, girls like confidence not limp noodles

nope its perfect for a girl like this (smart and seems confident, notice her making the initial approach etc)

she will appreciate the way the email is composed and gets right to the point that he wants to go out on a date with her. this whole "yeah im going out to eat, like do you eanna come if your hungry?" approach is for 16yr olds. act like a man.

you guys obviosly dont understand how important it is to compliment a woman. all chicks ever hear is how good they look, blah blah blah. compliment them on something they are not used to an you stick out in thier minds.
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This is the best advice I have seen yet! Women are judged on their looks and are very insecure about their appearance. Your woman will adore you if you constantly compliment her. I never even call my women by their names. I always call them cutie or beautiful. They love that. trust me.

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They may love that, but it doesn't make them attracted to you.

I'm willing to bet you have more women "friends" than you have lovers.

[i wanna be me]

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IMHO your biggest mistake was not getting her phone number. There are several advantages to not kissing her that night, but I can't think of a single advantage that comes from not asking for her phone number.

Edit: if i were you, I would ask for her phone number in the email. You could say you have some questions about the resume process or some similarly appropriate question, and use that conversation to segway into asking her out.

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IMO...the email should be short and sweet. If you feel the need that you must compliment her (which is ludicrous) then make SURE that you do it in a jokingly sort of humourous way.

I would get her phone # and ask her out over the phone.

The guy that keeps saying be a man is right. Real men do not supplicate and compliment a woman they just met.

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Why is there even discussion after these two posts? This is the right answer, and it's not even close.....

[siccjay]

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IMHO your biggest mistake was not getting her phone number. There are several advantages to not kissing her that night, but I can't think of a single advantage that comes from not asking for her phone number.

Edit: if i were you, I would ask for her phone number in the email. You could say you have some questions about the resume process or some similarly appropriate question, and use that conversation to segway into asking her out.

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IMO...the email should be short and sweet. If you feel the need that you must compliment her (which is ludicrous) then make SURE that you do it in a jokingly sort of humourous way.

I would get her phone # and ask her out over the phone.

The guy that keeps saying be a man is right. Real men do not supplicate and compliment a woman they just met.

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Why is there even discussion after these two posts? This is the right answer, and it's not even close.....

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Thank you.

[siccjay]

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Is it the ebook that says to speak to a girl you find hot within 7 seconds, and talks about repetative touching etc?

If so have read it, I dont think it applies here though, he spent 2 hours chatting away 1 on when out in a group, she is interested, sounds as though he is into her and sounds like he is more looking for relationships than lays (I may have misread it but he would have risked kissing her if just after the lay). I think that ebook is good for confidance building and if applied getting dates and probably repeat dates but it aint a manual for building anything like a proper relationship.

Do a two line email enjoyed talking to you other night fancy doing it again, heres my number etc. She will call or send you her number. job done.

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The eBook is Double Your Dating.

I see what you are saying. The advice I have given is to get the girl attracted to him, thats the first step right?
Whether he bangs her and never talks to again or marrys her all depends on how he feels about her.

To everyone telling this guy to tell the girl he likes her.........YOU ARE COMPLETE AND UTTER MORONS. YOU DO NOT SAY "GIRL I LIKE YOU" IF YOU LIKE HER YOU TELL HER BY MAKING A MOVE. GIRLS DON'T LIKE SISSIES LIKE YOU WHO PROFESS THEIR LOVE WITHOUT TAKING ACTION!!!!!!!!

whew I feel much better....

[spamuell]

I never even call my women by their names. I always call them cutie or beautiful. They love that. trust me.

ahahaha i love advice like this.

Seriously, all this "women love x" stuff is such a load of horseshit, different people like different things, threads like this are retarded.

[Peca277]

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Seriously, all this "women love x" stuff is such a load of horseshit, different people like different things, threads like this are retarded.

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I wasn't asking how to get a girl in general... I was asking for advice on this specific situation. Yes there have been opposing viewpoints, but hearing what other people think has helped me decide what course of action to take. Thanks for your input though Spamuell.

[spamuell]

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Seriously, all this "women love x" stuff is such a load of horseshit, different people like different things, threads like this are retarded.

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I wasn't asking how to get a girl in general... I was asking for advice on this specific situation. Yes there have been opposing viewpoints, but hearing what other people think has helped me decide what course of action to take. Thanks for your input though Spamuell.

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No need to take it so personally, I didn't say your original post was retarded but the generalised arguments that have sprouted from it are. Or whatever, maybe they're not for some people, I just don't buy all that stuff and I do ok.

[sublime]

You cannt be serious...admitting to be too lame to go for a kiss is not exactly a way to get points here...

i already said he should wait to say this, untilafter the first kiss. also, the way i worded it was a lot better than "i was scared so i didnt kiss you". i mean its right there in black and white, read before you post /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[sublime]

My advice: ignore anything siccjay has to say about how to treat/get/talk to or anything else to do with women at any time in any situation...ever.

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i dont know what to say, other than reading a book doesnt make you all of a sudden good with women. they are all different and each situation needs to be treated differently. fortuantly i was blessed with the abilty to handle just about every situation that comes up with relative ease /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

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I disagree with this advice.

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[Bluffoon]

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I think that is a little overboard on the sensitivity side and reeks of lack of confidence, girls like confidence not limp noodles

nope its perfect for a girl like this (smart and seems confident, notice her making the initial approach etc)

she will appreciate the way the email is composed and gets right to the point that he wants to go out on a date with her. this whole "yeah im going out to eat, like do you eanna come if your hungry?" approach is for 16yr olds. act like a man.

you guys obviosly dont understand how important it is to compliment a woman. all chicks ever hear is how good they look, blah blah blah. compliment them on something they are not used to an you stick out in thier minds.
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This is the best advice I have seen yet! Women are judged on their looks and are very insecure about their appearance. Your woman will adore you if you constantly compliment her. I never even call my women by their names. I always call them cutie or beautiful. They love that. trust me.

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They may love that, but it doesn't make them attracted to you.

I'm willing to bet you have more women "friends" than you have lovers.

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You would lose that bet.

[Bluffoon]

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Seriously, all this "women love x" stuff is such a load of horseshit, different people like different things, threads like this are retarded.

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I wasn't asking how to get a girl in general... I was asking for advice on this specific situation. Yes there have been opposing viewpoints, but hearing what other people think has helped me decide what course of action to take. Thanks for your input though Spamuell.

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No need to take it so personally, I didn't say your original post was retarded but the generalised arguments that have sprouted from it are. Or whatever, maybe they're not for some people, I just don't buy all that stuff and I do ok.

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That was a response from some idiot that was advising the OP not to compliment his woman. But hey, go ahead, treat your women like [censored]. It is just going it even easier for guys like me. Thanks

[Peca277]

Wanted to update you guys. I emailed her tonight letting her know I had a great time the other night, asked her out to dinner and for her phone number. 45 minutes later she emailed me back saying that she would love to go to dinner, and she's going out of town next week so it would have to be tomorrow or the week after when she's back.

I didn't mention the job at all and I think that hit her off guard... in a good way /images/graemlins/smile.gif She commented that she expected me to be saying I sent my resume in and wanted her to use her sucking up skills. I will let her know I already sent that in when I call her tomorrow. The outlook is good and I really appreciate the advice y'all gave!!!!

[sublime]

I emailed her tonight letting her know I had a great time the other night, asked her out to dinner and for her phone number. 45 minutes later she emailed me back saying that she would love to go to dinner, and she's going out of town next week so it would have to be tomorrow or the week after when she's back.

oh no. you should not have said you had a great time.....impending doom!!!

well played man, i hope you guys have agreat time it seems like you have a lot in common. of course dont tell her that. as a matter of fact dont talk. just make like nods and stuff, dont let her know she even exists. grab the waitress by the ass and holler 'got me a live one here, yeehhhha'

[Peca277]

I was thinking of asking her to have my black Jewish babies... is that not a good idea?

[LethalRose]

I havent read any posts but yours so I'll comment on just what ive read..

first off i dont think your a pussy for not kissing her, depending on the girl it might be a great move, and may make you very mysterious to her. A lot of girls will respect a guy more for not going for the kiss. It shows your not desperate and in control of your emotions.. A common test women/men will do is to offer up sex or something similar and see how the other person responds - are they desperate and say yes immediately..or do they turn it down and suggest something else theyd rather do.

This girl is definately into you, offering to help out a complete stranger in a manner like that is something she would probably only do for a friend or someone she wants to go further with. the seat thing is also a definate give away.

I think you need to make a move with this girl and let her know whats up, by not kissing her at the end you probably made her drive home wondering if you really liked her. I dont know if you did any teasing or flirting at the bar, but the only thing i can see in this situation is you might be flirting with her friend zone if you dont do something soon.

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but the only thing i can see in this situation is you might be flirting with her friend zone if you dont do something soon.

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[Bluffoon]

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Wanted to update you guys. I emailed her tonight letting her know I had a great time the other night, asked her out to dinner and for her phone number. 45 minutes later she emailed me back saying that she would love to go to dinner, and she's going out of town next week so it would have to be tomorrow or the week after when she's back.

I didn't mention the job at all and I think that hit her off guard... in a good way /images/graemlins/smile.gif She commented that she expected me to be saying I sent my resume in and wanted her to use her sucking up skills. I will let her know I already sent that in when I call her tomorrow. The outlook is good and I really appreciate the advice y'all gave!!!!

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WTG

See not such a pu$$y after all /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[siccjay]

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i dont know what to say, other than reading a book doesnt make you all of a sudden good with women. they are all different and each situation needs to be treated differently. fortuantly i was blessed with the abilty to handle just about every situation that comes up with relative ease /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

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Disagreeing with me on everything would be silly.

sublime, you are the only person that disagrees with me that has any kind of idea what they are talking about. I didn't mean to make it out like I was mean to girls at all. I just meant to get the point across that too many compliments is baaaaad I don't care what any of you retards say. If you act like a simp and try to please a girl in every way you are doomed to be stuck on the friends ladder and there is no getting off it. That is unless the girl is desperate of course, then it doesn't matter. Sorry but the type or chicks I'm trying to meet have no reason to be desperate.

Again, I didn't mean to come off like I was a dick to women. The key is to treat them no different than you would one of your buddies. Joke around, tease them, say things that make you different from the average guy. Humor and confidence without being too cocky, that is what they like.

[jakethebake]

Are you serious about this eBook? You actually bought an eBook on how to meet women? You remind me of a friend I had in Jr. High School. He was this kind of akward, very nerdy Jewish kid. He went out and bought a book on how to break dance. It said the best breakdancing shoes were these blue suede Pumas so he went out and bought them too. But damned if he never could break dance. Plus the shoes looked really stupid. But it didn't stop him from trying to sound like an expert on break dancing because he was the only one in school that had read a book on it.

[Shajen]

you know the old phrase:

those who can, do. Those who can't, teach.

I don't see why it shouldn't apply here.

[Bluffoon]

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My advice: ignore anything siccjay has to say about how to treat/get/talk to or anything else to do with women at any time in any situation...ever.

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i dont know what to say, other than reading a book doesnt make you all of a sudden good with women. they are all different and each situation needs to be treated differently. fortuantly i was blessed with the abilty to handle just about every situation that comes up with relative ease /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

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Disagreeing with me on everything would be silly.

sublime, you are the only person that disagrees with me that has any kind of idea what they are talking about. I didn't mean to make it out like I was mean to girls at all. I just meant to get the point across that too many compliments is baaaaad I don't care what any of you retards say. If you act like a simp and try to please a girl in every way you are doomed to be stuck on the friends ladder and there is no getting off it. That is unless the girl is desperate of course, then it doesn't matter. Sorry but the type or chicks I'm trying to meet have no reason to be desperate.
Again, I didn't mean to come off like I was a dick to women. The key is to treat them no different than you would one of your buddies. Joke around, tease them, say things that make you different from the average guy. Humor and confidence without being too cocky, that is what they like.

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Keep trying

[Tuco]

Tuco knows chicks.

Somewhat unfortunate that I finally figured them out in my late 30's and into my 4th year of marriage.

Tuco.

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Are you serious about this eBook? You actually bought an eBook on how to meet women? You remind me of a friend I had in Jr. High School. He was this kind of akward, very nerdy Jewish kid. He went out and bought a book on how to break dance. It said the best breakdancing shoes were these blue suede Pumas so he went out and bought them too. But damned if he never could break dance. Plus the shoes looked really stupid. But it didn't stop him from trying to sound like an expert on break dancing because he was the only one in school that had read a book on it.

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No I didn't buy it. Who on the internet pays for downloadable things?

You were friends with an akward, nerdy Jewish kid. That seems about right. I bet you all railed lots and lots of chicks in high school.

[siccjay]

OMFG WOWZERS YOU REALLY ZINGED ME WITH THAT POST!!!!!!!!

die

[dtbog]

Nice thread... can you post the hand history of the date?

-DB

[Rick Diesel]

Well played.

[MortalWombat]

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She commented that she expected me to be saying I sent my resume in and wanted her to use her sucking up skills.

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That can wait til the 3rd date.

[DemonDeac]

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Wanted to update you guys. I emailed her tonight letting her know I had a great time the other night, asked her out to dinner and for her phone number. 45 minutes later she emailed me back saying that she would love to go to dinner, and she's going out of town next week so it would have to be tomorrow or the week after when she's back.

I didn't mention the job at all and I think that hit her off guard... in a good way /images/graemlins/smile.gif She commented that she expected me to be saying I sent my resume in and wanted her to use her sucking up skills. I will let her know I already sent that in when I call her tomorrow. The outlook is good and I really appreciate the advice y'all gave!!!!

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its time do, as they say in the south, GET 'ER DONE!!

[i wanna be me]

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We have a winner!! If you're looking for a girl to date, this is PERFECT advice. If you give up too much (in compliments, presents, etc.) too early, two things will happen:

1. they'll think you're a pussy (trust me).
2. they'll love you for it, but will expect more (directly proportional to the length of time you've been dating). They will eventually get bored with you being a pussy (trust me).

Clearly both options are -EV (due to your being a pussy). A separate strategy of confidence and independence (refraining from continuous compliments, etc.), along with flirting/humour, will make you so much more desireable to women. Women don't like "bad boys", they like men who can handle themselves.

[SossMan]

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Can you say???? (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=desperate)

[BillNye]

If only she new u had a thread about her on what steps to take. She would really dig ur confidence then...

Good luck on the babe.

[siccjay]

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The key is to treat them no different than you would one of your buddies. Joke around, tease them, say things that make you different from the average guy. Humor and confidence without being too cocky, that is what they like.

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We have a winner!! If you're looking for a girl to date, this is PERFECT advice. If you give up too much (in compliments, presents, etc.) too early, two things will happen:

1. they'll think you're a pussy (trust me).
2. they'll love you for it, but will expect more (directly proportional to the length of time you've been dating). They will eventually get bored with you being a pussy (trust me).

Clearly both options are -EV (due to your being a pussy). A separate strategy of confidence and independence (refraining from continuous compliments, etc.), along with flirting/humour, will make you so much more desireable to women. Women don't like "bad boys", they like men who can handle themselves.

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^^^Smart, smart man.

You quoted something I said. I'd hate for someone to get the idea that Bluffoon said that. It was more than 2 words so it should have been easy to figure out.

[siccjay]

HAHA

You can use that link for a lot of the replies too.

[i wanna be me]

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The key is to treat them no different than you would one of your buddies. Joke around, tease them, say things that make you different from the average guy. Humor and confidence without being too cocky, that is what they like. ---- siccjay

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We have a winner!! If you're looking for a girl to date, this is PERFECT advice. If you give up too much (in compliments, presents, etc.) too early, two things will happen:

1. they'll think you're a pussy (trust me).
2. they'll love you for it, but will expect more (directly proportional to the length of time you've been dating). They will eventually get bored with you being a pussy (trust me).

Clearly both options are -EV (due to your being a pussy). A separate strategy of confidence and independence (refraining from continuous compliments, etc.), along with flirting/humour, will make you so much more desireable to women. Women don't like "bad boys", they like men who can handle themselves.

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^^^Smart, smart man.

You quoted something I said. I'd hate for someone to get the idea that Bluffoon said that. It was more than 2 words so it should have been easy to figure out.

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