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octaveshift
03-20-2005, 04:06 PM
I don't feel bad about this. Should I?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

MP1 (t2120)
MP2 (t1335)
MP3 (t1295)
CO (t1632)
Button (t1505)
SB (t1800)
Hero (t3408)
UTG (t1355)
UTG+1 (t2035)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t150</font>, SB calls t100.

Flop: (t300) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t300</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t1650</font>, Hero calls t1350.

Turn: (t3600) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t3600) 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t3600

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
SB has Js Qs (flush, king high).
Hero has Ac As (one pair, aces).
Outcome: SB wins t3600. </font>
lastchance
03-20-2005, 04:33 PM
Yeah, you could slowplay, but your line is fine.
ukgazz
03-20-2005, 04:33 PM
I will comment after a few more have as 'I was there ' /images/graemlins/wink.gif
betgo
03-20-2005, 04:53 PM
What's the problem. You were way ahead on the flop.

SB only has a flush draw and is making a pure semibluff, figuring you don't have a king and will fold.

You played it by the book and got all the money in with the best hand.

What's the buyin?
Elektrik
03-20-2005, 04:55 PM
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I don't feel bad about this. Should I?

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No.
citanul
03-20-2005, 05:03 PM
damn, yeah, i really hate getting all my money in as a favorite.

citanul
KenProspero
03-20-2005, 05:08 PM
Sort of an unrelated comment.

First, I think your play was reasonable, though I may have tried to be all-in pre-flop. Yours is clearly not fish-like.

My guess is that SB is of the belief that anyone who doesn't have an A should fold whenever he represents one. Hey, all my bluffs should work too.

However, even if you were, it seems to me that calling another player a fish is either (1) trying to play a head game or (2) tapping the tank, which has got to be -ev. I'd much rather commiserate with someone makes bad bets and loses as to how he screwed up.
Eder
03-20-2005, 05:16 PM
Well it could have been worse...maybe 63o...haha (inside joke) /images/graemlins/laugh.gif
octaveshift
03-20-2005, 05:35 PM
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octaveshift
03-20-2005, 05:38 PM
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damn, yeah, i really hate getting all my money in as a favorite.

citanul

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Yes. This post was mainly for the villain. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

I placed 8th in the tourney, so I am happy. (My first 2+2 tourney ever!)
eastbay
03-20-2005, 05:39 PM
I didn't even read your post, but usually when I get called a fish, it means I've done someting right.

If I get called an idiot or a moron, it usually means I've done something really right.

eastbay
11t
03-20-2005, 05:44 PM
maybe all the fish that I think are morons are really amazing players doing things I don't even understand /images/graemlins/wink.gif
gasgod
03-20-2005, 05:48 PM
There are no circumstances -- none whatsoever-- under which a non-moron calls another player a fish.

In your shoes, I would be happy with the result (getting my money in as a favorite), but obviously not the outcome.


GG
Eder
03-20-2005, 06:26 PM
Fish term I believe was mentioned by a player in jest, as was my comment for him to only play AA for set value...hand imo was played well by both players
gasgod
03-20-2005, 06:31 PM
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Fish term I believe was mentioned by a player in jest, as was my comment for him to only play AA for set value...hand imo was played well by both players

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Makes all the difference in the world if both players knew it was in jest ...


GG
ukgazz
03-20-2005, 07:31 PM
I feel I can comment now!

I fealt that the raise and the post flop bet after the check was with a hand like AQ / AJ QQ or JJ

With that in mind I felt that the 300 bet looked weak and chose to go over the top with the check raise to the flush draw.....

The fish comment was Im sure in jest and I think that knowing what the cards were now and not knowing the opponents cards we both played the had correctly (as there are many ways to play a hand!)

Good flops all

UKGazz