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KeithF40
03-20-2005, 01:31 AM
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

UTG+1 ($113.1)
Hero ($16.2)
MP1 ($177.45)
MP2 ($91.35)
MP3 ($93.45)
CO ($161)
Button ($114.55)
SB ($99)
BB ($99)
UTG ($24.05)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.5.
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, MP2 calls $1, MP3 calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $1, SB (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($5) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets $4</font>, MP3 folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds.

Final Pot: $9

tbach24
03-20-2005, 01:37 AM
What's there to analyze?

KeithF40
03-20-2005, 01:39 AM
VERY GOOD POINT I ACCIDENTALLY POSTED THE WRONG HAND.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

UTG+2 ($113.1)
Hero ($79.2)
MP2 ($177.45)
MP3 ($91.35)
CO ($93.45)
Button ($99.5)
SB ($115.05)
BB ($100)
UTG ($99)
UTG+1 ($24.05)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.5.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls $3, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($7.50) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $10</font>, Hero calls $5.

Turn: ($27.50) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $20</font>, Hero calls $20.

River: ($67.50) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $30</font>, Hero calls $30.

Final Pot: $127.50

tbach24
03-20-2005, 01:45 AM
Pre-flop: Are you always raising with 77 when folded to in EMP? I am not sure how good that is because there's a good chance you will be OOP on a board you don't like in a larger pot.

The flop and turn are good, but again I think blocking this river would be good.

Allinlife
03-20-2005, 01:55 AM
I thought reraising with set on monotone flop was standard... is this wrong?

Lucky Irishman
03-20-2005, 01:57 AM
any reads? if not, i would have a hard time getting rid of this. he could be playing ak (with the ace of spades), or aa (with the ace of spades). he might even have a middle pp, and think that you are the one on the flush draw (and he is not giving you credit for a set or pair of kings). if he has the aq spades (or suited onnectors spades), then i just pay this off (assuming no reads). i feel like enough players online are pushing top pair with a spade kicker here, that it justifies hanging in there with your set.

plus, he started with $90, and he's only getting $60 in through the river. i think if he had a made fush, the bets would have been just a bit bigger (enough so that he would try and doube up the full $90).

tbach24
03-20-2005, 01:59 AM
It depends on how much of my stack it is and the opponents tendancy to semi-bluff-raise. Usually I think that a re-raise would be bad here as a min-raise is either "I think you've missed" or is "I have a monster." So, you either are way ahead or way behind.

yeah, it's way ahead or way behind, not way behind or way behind. I'm tired.

KeithF40
03-20-2005, 02:09 AM
Well wouldnt that put you way ahead or way behind. I thought he probably had AsK. Now I see how the block bet helps so much but again how much of the pot should the block bet be.

Allinlife
03-20-2005, 02:11 AM
hm...I always reraised in these situations back when party had 50bb buyin structures, and hoped to put the money in the middle because I was often against TPTK/ 2 pair/ A-high semibluff when stacks were shallow and even if I was wrong, I had good almost 1/3 pot equity by filling up by river.

but now that stacks are often deeper, would it often be better to bet-call, check-call on non-flush card and block river on blank when playing set OOP on mono-flop?

very general question, but I think there are quite a few pros to reraising on the flop.