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shadow29
03-19-2005, 09:52 PM
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Preflop: Hero is SB with Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls, MP2 calls, Button calls.

Flop: (9 SB) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero ??</font>

Cual es su plan?

Edit: Spanish idiocy lapse

Edit again: more spanish idiocy.

DavidC
03-19-2005, 10:04 PM
I'm pretty sure you know this, because of post count.

Check, because:

-your only backdoor is to a straight at 0.5 outs, and it's not the nuts as it may contain flush cards.

-you've only got an ace as your overcard

-the flop is co-ordinated, so people will call.

-you're in first position

-you've got a bunch of loose callers



There's 4 of them in there with you, you've only got a backdoor perfect perfect straight: 0.5 outs roughly, other than your overcards.

The flop is co-ordinated.

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I check here, and then I don't know what to do if there's a bet. I really don't like the winning chances of this hand and I'd actually have to say check-fold.

imported_leader
03-19-2005, 10:05 PM
If you think you'll fold the field one in nine times with a bet, then bet. If not, check/fold.

deepsquat
03-19-2005, 10:06 PM
How would a check/call or fold go depending on the action. I dont like leading out as its a drawing board and the risk of being raised is high.

If theres alot of action fold, if not have a look at the turn but i dont like you spot here as u may only have 2 clean outs

bottomset
03-19-2005, 10:07 PM
is this a trick shadow?? you should know this by now

istewart
03-19-2005, 10:07 PM
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Qual es su plan?

Edit: Spanish idiocy lapse

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CUAL!

shadow29
03-19-2005, 10:09 PM
ugh boy does my spanish suck these days.

shadow29
03-19-2005, 10:12 PM
no trick, but im not the player here. i really dont have a question about it, but some might.

Entity
03-19-2005, 10:25 PM
I'm torn between checking, then folding quickly to a bet, and checking, pausing for a while, then folding.

Rob

shadow29
03-19-2005, 10:28 PM
Pausing for like 5 seconds is key.

This is just something I had trouble with when I was ridiculously hyper aggressive (as opposed to just regular old hyperaggressive, like now).

Autobetting the flop because you raised pf is a terrible leak to have.

istewart
03-19-2005, 10:30 PM
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I'm torn between checking, then folding quickly to a bet, and checking, pausing for a while, then folding.

Rob

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I lol'ed.

Entity
03-19-2005, 10:35 PM
I might bet this flop if:

I had good position (could take a card on the turn and see what develops).

There were fewer opponents.

I had a read on the field as being very weak tight.

DoctorDrew
03-19-2005, 11:13 PM
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I'm torn between checking, then folding quickly to a bet, and checking, pausing for a while, then folding.

Rob

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Open-fold /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Entity
03-19-2005, 11:17 PM
[ QUOTE ]
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I'm torn between checking, then folding quickly to a bet, and checking, pausing for a while, then folding.

Rob

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Open-fold /images/graemlins/smile.gif

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Ooh. I hadn't thought of that.

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Preflop: Hero is MP with 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB folds.

Final Pot: 2.25 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
No showdown. Hero wins 2.25 BB. </font>