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whitelime
03-19-2005, 08:22 AM
Should I be folding this on any street? Should I have played it any differently?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

UTG+1 ($1687.79)
UTG+2 ($1089)
MP1 ($995)
MP2 ($1695)
MP3 ($780)
CO ($437.5)
Button ($1685)
SB ($984.25)
Hero ($1000)
UTG ($1489.25)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif. SB posts a blind of $5.
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, MP2 calls $10, MP3 calls $10, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB (poster) completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($40) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $30</font>, MP2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to $60</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $150</font>, Hero calls $120, MP3 calls $90.

Turn: ($490) T/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $275</font>, MP3 calls $275, SB calls $824.25 (All-In), Hero calls $565 (All-In), MP3 calls $345 (All-In).

River: ($2774.25) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 3 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $2774.25

SossMan
03-19-2005, 11:45 AM
well played.

fsuplayer
03-19-2005, 12:58 PM
id bet a little more on the turn, but looks good other than that.

whitelime
03-19-2005, 01:02 PM
Is it the betting patterns, or as a rule of thumb, are you willing to go broke for 100 BB's w/ the 2nd nut flush in an unraised pot?

fsuplayer
03-19-2005, 01:08 PM
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Is it the betting patterns, or as a rule of thumb, are you willing to go broke for 100 BB's w/ the 2nd nut flush in an unraised pot?

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in a heartbeat. *insert obvious, 'unless the guy is a total rock' disclaimer*

i have seen many guys putting in their whole stack with butt flushes all the time.

nsj
03-19-2005, 01:11 PM
Given the turn action, I can't see how you're not beat here. Does anyone really believe that either MP3 is calling off his stack with a set, or 9A or TA with the A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif?

I think you see Ax/images/graemlins/diamond.gif and 33 or 55 here almost all the time.

Is checking the turn through to gain position on MP3 and the SB a terrible play? Seems like a situation where you can gain a read by not betting and seeing how the action returns to you. If it's checked through and the blank 8 hits the river, I'd feel a lot better about it...

I think it's a tough hand.

Jeffage
03-19-2005, 01:34 PM
If he's got the AC flush you lose a grand. Sucks, but that's life. It would take a 4th diamond on the turn or board pair for me to get out.

Jeff

krammatrix
03-19-2005, 01:43 PM
I think you're up against a against any random flush just about as often as the ace high flush. These party players love pushing their flushes, i can see him playing his 10 or Q high flush exactly the same way, so theres no way he can fold the K here.

integrate
03-19-2005, 06:04 PM
I agree with this one...Although it depends on the player, I don't think he would've gone all in on the turn if he had the nut flush.

He might've gone all in because his flush isn't high enough and afraid another diamond might come out.

youngin20
03-19-2005, 11:46 PM
Does anyone see that it was raised and reraised to the hero on the flop? Thoughts? what does that mean? I feel that on the second raise you are looking at the nuts, especially coming from limpers in an unraised pot (they love Ax suited) or am i way off base and this is a set looking to protect. I think you are probably beat 2/3 times, but you can still call just because 1. I think very few people are good enough to lay that down 2. I havent really checked, but I think the pot was laying you pretty good odds (im lazy)

edit: Then again, what hand are you trying to make with K4 suited? THE FLUSH. I dont see a laydown, I am assuming from your wording you got shown the nut flush, and were looking for vindication on your play. You played it right, if you lost, in the words of Chao Giang, "Thats poker buddy!"

Dr. Strangelove
03-20-2005, 01:21 AM
Go broke as fast as possible here.