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scott2130
03-19-2005, 12:49 AM
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Villain is a LAG

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, MP1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.75 BB) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (7.75 BB) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9.75 BB
A_C_Slater
03-19-2005, 12:52 AM
Depends. Just how Laggy is he?

I like it.

you're only losing to AA or AK, maybe KQ. If he's a true LAG he could have a wide range of other hands he's betting with into you here.
KaiShin
03-19-2005, 12:52 AM
Raise the flop.

If villain 3-bets, I'd call down from there.
scott2130
03-19-2005, 12:55 AM
Aren't I losing to Kx? He could have K2o and I lose.
istewart
03-19-2005, 12:56 AM
He could have A2 and you lose, too, when the turn comes.
A_C_Slater
03-19-2005, 12:57 AM
If he is that type of super LAG, the kind that will 3bet from the BB with K2o, then you most certainly have to call this down. Becuase if that's the case, he could have pocket 3's or A6 or any number of even more hands you have beat.
scott2130
03-19-2005, 01:00 AM
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He could have A2 and you lose, too, when the turn comes.

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What? How?
A_C_Slater
03-19-2005, 01:01 AM
He meant A7
scott2130
03-19-2005, 01:06 AM
It seems calling him down was the correct play. He 3 bet preflop with KTo. Nothing like rewarding bad play.
A_C_Slater
03-19-2005, 01:11 AM
He had KTo!!!!????

I take back everything I said.

He's not playing the right way. /images/graemlins/mad.gif
itsmesteve
03-19-2005, 01:14 AM
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Raise the flop.

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agreed.
oLyphant
03-19-2005, 02:50 AM
raise the flop, remember you have QQ, don't become weak and passive just because a king came on the flop, show agression at the beginning where its cheap, and adjust for the turn/river
Aaron W.
03-19-2005, 03:42 AM
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Raise the flop.

If villain 3-bets, I'd call down from there.

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Definitely bet if checked to, but I think I like just calling down here. The reason is that if you're 3-bet, you're going to hate calling down. And if you're not 3-bet, you may have given the LAG just enough to give up on the hand.
DoctorDrew
03-19-2005, 08:21 AM
I would raise the flop. Otherwise you have no information other than a PF 3-bet to tell you what he's holding.
bozlax
03-19-2005, 11:53 AM
I agree with raise the flop. However, if 3-bet call down? That's what he did anyway. Why reraise if you're not going to use the information gained.

Fold to the 3-bet and fight another day. Unless, of course, you're playing an uber-LAG that would 3-bet JJ with a K on the board, in which case you're going to war with any hand you'd play.
bozlax
03-19-2005, 12:12 PM
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He's not playing the right way.

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He's playing exactly the right way...the way you want a LAG to play. The L stands for loose, that A stands for aggressive. Once in a while he wins, usually here he's holding bottom pair and gets all excited when the second pair comes on the board to give HIM AND HIM ALONE two-pair.