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danvh
03-19-2005, 12:48 AM
This isnt a bad beat post. I am wondering if I should fold to the button waking up and the action after. Pre-river I knew I was ahead and was pretty sure I was up against AKs(or AA) and JJ (or something like it) by MP2 and MP3. The button I thought was on a draw. Once the diamond hits (especially a straight making one), in the context of a SNG should I have given it up? I basically just called out of spite and pot size. Was this a mistake? Basically I just want to know, in the context of this hand, should I have saved some chips or called down on a hand I thought someone drew out.

Party Poker Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind t30 (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

MP1 (t650)
<font color="#C00000">MP2 (t770)</font>
<font color="#C00000">MP3 (t1325)</font>
CO (t1300)
<font color="#C00000">Button (t835)</font>
SB (t535)
<font color="#C00000">Hero (t925)</font>
UTG (t1310)
UTG+1 (t350)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, Button calls.

Flop: (20.50 SB, t615) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 caps</font>, MP3 calls, Button calls, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (20.25 BB, t1215) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 caps</font>, Button calls, Hero calls, MP2 calls.

River: (36.25 BB, t2175) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 caps</font>, MP3 calls, Button calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 52.25 BB (t3135)

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Ks Kc (three of a kind, kings).
MP2 has Qh As (one pair, queens).
MP3 has Jh Jc (three of a kind, jacks).
Button has Td Ad (flush, ace high).
Outcome: Button wins 52.25 BB (t3135). </font>

curtains
03-19-2005, 01:22 AM
I would fold to the 3 bet on the river, it's just way too obvious that someone has a flush, but I'm not quite world champion of limit holdem.

It's always dangerous to fold in such a huge pot in limit holdem, also everyone was showing so much strength the entire hand, thus indicating made hands and not flush draws. Howeverthe only player who should logically have had a flush draw is the button. Of course they are the one that 3 bet, so you should be in huge trouble here. It's almost impossible for them to have anything else while calling many bets on flop, and turn and suddenly springing to life when the diamond hits on the end.