Is this a BB special?

[Scuba Chuck]

...or a BB bust? What would you do here? This is the second hand of a $33 SNG.

What hands to you put these guys on?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Hero (t800)
UTG (t800)
UTG+1 (t785)
UTG+2 (t800)
MP1 (t800)
MP2 (t735)
MP3 (t775)
CO (t790)
Button (t930)
SB (t785)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, MP3 calls t15, CO calls t15, Button calls t15, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (t75) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, 4/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t75</font>, MP3 calls t75, CO bets 775 ALL-IN, Button folds, SB folds, HERO.......

[adanthar]

Calls and hope the pocket tens don't suck out.

[Deuce2High]

I am ahead of a flush draw and a straight draw but behind a set. I fold here and probably would check the flop anyways to see the next card since there are so many draws. If someone bets small I call but fold to an all-in bet. I play weak-tight first 3-rounds including folding AK to a big raise with multiple callers. I play the 10+1 SnG's. Passing up a marginal double up oppurtunity will not effect my ROI.

[adanthar]

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If someone bets small I call but fold to an all-in bet. I play weak-tight first 3-rounds including folding AK to a big raise with multiple callers. I play the 10+1 SnG's. Passing up a marginal double up oppurtunity will not effect my ROI.

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Ahahahaha...now it's reached 2 pair. Pretty soon, someone's gonna write a serious post about check/folding a set with the same board because 'it's so marginal and I can find a better spot'.

Hint: The board is 764. It's not QJT. Jebus, people, weak tight play might be all right sometimes but this is beginning to look like a fetish.

[ZebraAss]

I am very weak-tight early...but I am not letting this one go.

..ALL ABOARD!!!

-Zebra

[Voltron87]

Go all in, put your hands over your eyes and spin around in your chair 20 times.

[Scuba Chuck]

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Calls and hope the pocket tens don't suck out.


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That was exactly my thought. The allin guy probably has an overpair like 88. It was the guy yet to act behind me that worried me the most.

[adanthar]

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That was exactly my thought. The allin guy probably has an overpair like 88. It was the guy yet to act behind me that worried me the most.

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The most likely hands for him are a draw (one or the other) or a lone 7. Most of the time, he at least folds a lone 5. Even if he calls, though, you're gonna be around 50% to triple up on the hand. If not, ni han, next tourney. You're not folding 2 pair to one call and a random all in that you know is a dog.

[Scuba Chuck]

The allin guy is behind at this point FOR SURE. He has to suckout on me to win this hand (which is a decent probability, unfortunately).

I just hate the smooth call behind me. Then, as I thought more, this is the second hand of the tourney, all the fish are still present...

[Scuba Chuck]

FWIW, I called, guy behind me folded. The ATM who pushed had J2 clubs...

[curtains]

VERY likely you have the best hand. Of course when you are behind you rae dead, and if you are ahead you are not going to win all of the time of course. However I think youll be ahead enough here to make this a call, albeit an annoying one.

[Scuba Chuck]

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VERY likely you have the best hand. Of course when you are behind you rae dead, and if you are ahead you are not going to win all of the time of course. However I think youll be ahead enough here to make this a call, albeit an annoying one.

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Two pair, and bottom pairs at that, don't hold up very well against an overpair unfortunately. that coupled with the probability that I might already be beat makes these hands marginal. I've lost a few of these lately. But, as opposed to the common opinion of me here, I'm not that weak tight.

[morgan180]

I'd like to think at the $33's that people aren't calling pot-sized bets on draws, but you have to put one of them on it. I'd guess the smooth call to be something like JJ and the all-in to be an over-agressive drawer or another big pair trying to squash the draw. I think you have to call here and hold your breath.

[RobGW]

An overpair had 5 outs on the flop and 8 outs on the turn. You should win this 3/4 of the time against an overpair.

[RobGW]

Hero has two pair which makes a set less likely. Playing slow against a draw is a good way to lose money or at the very least not make enough money on your made hands. BTW what is your ROI? I'm just curious.

[Scuba Chuck]

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BTW what is your ROI? I'm just curious.

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My ROI is only 25-27%. Why do you ask?

[Bigwig]

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folding AK to a big raise with multiple callers.

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What on Earth for?

[Scuba Chuck]

So, it's essentially like being up against an OE straight draw, or one less than a flush draw. I knew that.

But if that's what I think, but when I'm wrong and up against a set, or a higher two pair. That's why I think this is not as dominant as I hope.

[GanAnim]

or calls and hopes they aren't trying to suck out a flush

[valenzuela]

Hero calls and hopes the overcards/flush draw/ top pair doesnt suck out. A FD is 2/1 underdog, add some pot odds, or why are we involucrating pot odds i mean just call.

[Phil Van Sexton]

Against bad players, any hand that beats TPTK or an overpair is gold.

This is an auto-call in a side game. In a SnG, it's still a call, but with less enthusiasm.

[valenzuela]

I think its the structure more than the player which make the call correct.