Need to see a cheap river, any suggestions?

[RiverTheNuts]

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

UTG (t640)
UTG+1 (t770)
MP1 (t755)
MP2 (t850)
MP3 (t795)
CO (t730)
Button (t1825)
Hero (t785)
BB (t850)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls t15, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP3 calls t15, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t57.50) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t30</font>, BB calls t30, UTG folds, MP3 folds.

Turn: (t117.50) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t45</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t162.50

[citanul]

Please proofread or edit your post. The converter is having issues. Hero clearly doesn't bet and fold to the bet on the turn.

citanul

ps: you can't fold for 45 chips on the turn heads up.

[lorinda]

The converter is having issues
Final Pot: t162.50

Yep.

Lori

[RiverTheNuts]

Sorry, he pushed for all his chips and then I folded... now what say you all? /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Benholio]

I would check/call small bets on both streets, folding to any decent sized bet or to any bet/raise.

[wuwei]

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Sorry, he pushed for all his chips and then I folded... now what say you all? /images/graemlins/smile.gif

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Your line is ok. I don't use it that often, but against passive opponents I'll try something like this to set the price of my draw and possibly take things down if everyone missed the flop.

Be selective about when you try it, though.

[lorinda]

If you bet the 45, it probably should have been a little less, but seems okay to do this and then fold to me.

Lori

[curtains]

I don't bet the flop in these spots. Of course it's not terrible to bet the flop, I would bet it against 2 opponents, but not 3, and if I did bet I would make it at least 45-50 (assuming 3 opponents and 60 chip pot), so that people don't get too tempted to call with random overcards or other assorted weak hands.

[Slim Pickens]

What buy-in?

[AA suited]

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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

UTG (t640)
UTG+1 (t770)
MP1 (t755)
MP2 (t850)
MP3 (t795)
CO (t730)
Button (t1825)
Hero (t785)
BB (t850)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls t15, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP3 calls t15, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t57.50) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t30</font>, BB calls t30, UTG folds, MP3 folds.

Turn: (t117.50) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t45</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t162.50

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it looks like you started w/800 chips, thus 30+3 or below.

you have 12 outs. assuming all were live, i would have check/called if the pot odds were right, else check/fold.

i wouldn't bet out on the flop early in a tourny when there's 2+ opponents. not worth the risk to win 50 chips.

On the turn you have 14 outs. what you do here depends on what happened on the flop. i would either:
- bet 1/3 pot as a blocking bet
- check/call if i had the pot odds, else check/fold

[ColdestCall]

This may not be relevant to getting to see the river cheap, but....

Fold preflop.

[nokona13]

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This may not be relevant to getting to see the river cheap, but....

Fold preflop.

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Yeah, I was gonna ask if noone else folds Q6s after level 1 from the SB?

[Benholio]

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This may not be relevant to getting to see the river cheap, but....

Fold preflop.

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Yeah, I was gonna ask if noone else folds Q6s after level 1 from the SB?

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I only fold complete garbage for 5 chips. Almost any suited or semi-connected hand is worth 5 chips to me.

[ColdestCall]

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This may not be relevant to getting to see the river cheap, but....

Fold preflop.

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Yeah, I was gonna ask if noone else folds Q6s after level 1 from the SB?

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I only fold complete garbage for 5 chips. Almost any suited or semi-connected hand is worth 5 chips to me.

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and how many chips did Hero lose this hand?