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chipolino

03-17-2005, 07:30 PM

No read on opponent yet. What you guys think, too weak on my part?

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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
3 folds, Hero raises, 2 folds, CO calls, Button 3-bets, 2 folds, Hero caps, CO folds, Button calls.

Flop: (11.50 SB) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero calls.

3-bet here? And if capped called down to the river?

Turn: (7.75 BB) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls.

River: (9.75 BB) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 11.75 BB

KaiShin

03-17-2005, 07:32 PM

I would have 3-bet the flop and called down if capped.

Maybe lead the turn just to be absolutely sure its AA.

Edited cause I can't form my ideas into sentences for some reason.

Shillx

03-17-2005, 07:33 PM

What you guys think, too weak on my part?

Yeah. You don't have get into a spew fest on 4th and 5th street, but at least give it something more then this. No one says you have to cap all streets but this is weaksauce. I can see him letting out a /images/graemlins/confused.gif when he rolls over his JJ.

Brad

the_rookie

03-17-2005, 07:34 PM

I agree with the 3 bet.

EDIT* I meant what if we get raised. Sorry bout that.

KaiShin

03-17-2005, 07:36 PM

Hero is first to act, we can't get checkraised on the turn.

If you mean should Hero CR the turn... its an option, but not a good one. It would be disastrous if it was checked through on the turn. I'd prefer a SnG on the turn to a CR.

the_rookie

03-17-2005, 07:38 PM

Yeah I just edited my post, For some reason I accidently put checkraise instead of raised. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

chipolino

03-17-2005, 07:52 PM

I agree, that was some weak-ass-play. Sorry for letting 2+2 down. I repent father, I repent. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

zuluking

03-17-2005, 07:55 PM

Jam as many chips as humanly possible into this pot.

bozlax

03-17-2005, 08:36 PM

You need to fly off the handle on this one. He 3-bet and called your cap PF, so there's not a 5 within a mile of his hand. The only pocket you're losing to is AA, while I'd put the range of his possible hands all the way to TT and maybe even AKs (suited to one of the flop cards).

ihardlyknowher

03-17-2005, 09:36 PM

[ QUOTE ]
No read on opponent yet. What you guys think, too weak on my part?

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
3 folds, Hero raises, 2 folds, CO calls, Button 3-bets, 2 folds, Hero caps, CO folds, Button calls.

Flop: (11.50 SB) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero calls.

3-bet here? And if capped called down to the river?

Turn: (7.75 BB) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls.

River: (9.75 BB) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 11.75 BB

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"3-bet here? And if capped called down to the river?"

I think u said it best yourself. U are only behind to aces. No hand with a 5 in it is 3-betting preflop.

stoxtrader

03-18-2005, 10:39 AM

ihardly know her nailed it.

yes, AA will raise this flop, but so will 99/tt/JJ/QQ (other possible pre-flop 3 betting holdings).

you lose equity by not getting more in on the turn, and of course you will see a showdown here 100% of the time, even if an A falls.

Sykes

03-18-2005, 10:45 AM

3 bet the flop.

Bet the turn even if villian caps the flop. Villian could be capping with JJ/QQ/KK/AA and maybe TT.

If you get raised on the turn, call down.

SCfuji

03-18-2005, 10:54 AM

are you insane?

Sykes

03-18-2005, 11:21 AM

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are you insane?

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Who are you talking to?

SCfuji

03-18-2005, 11:24 AM

sorry i have multiple monitors and read multiple threads at once. i apologize.

MrWookie47

03-18-2005, 11:46 AM

The only hands you're worried about on the flop are AA and 5x. Since hands containing 5's are not 3-betting hands PRF, I don't think there's cause for alarm yet. QQ-TT would play this the same way. Make it three bets on the flop, and if capped, you could even think about leading the turn and call down if raised.

joeski19

03-18-2005, 01:19 PM

[ QUOTE ]
3 bet the flop.

Bet the turn even if villian caps the flop. Villian could be capping with JJ/QQ/KK/AA and maybe TT.

If you get raised on the turn, call down.

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chucksim

03-18-2005, 02:29 PM

Put me in the 3-bet, call down to a cap camp.