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1C5
03-17-2005, 07:28 PM
No read on player.
What to do??
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (6 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

UTG (t1990)
MP (t515)
Hero (t1925)
Button (t915)
SB (t745)
BB (t1910)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t150</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t745 (All-In)</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero ?


Thanks.
smartalecc5
03-17-2005, 07:39 PM
fold, but theres no math behind my decision.
Bigwig
03-17-2005, 07:47 PM
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fold, but theres no math behind my decision.

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Call. There's math behind my decision.
gasgod
03-17-2005, 08:08 PM
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fold, but theres no math behind my decision.

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Call. There's math behind my decision.

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What range of hands do you put him on? At T745, he is not desperate.

But, of course, this is party ...


GG
curtains
03-17-2005, 08:17 PM
SB could have a very wide assortment of hands. I call but I'm not happy about it. If I raised in an earlier position I'd be more likely to fold to the reraise. When you raise first in on the cutoff, the SB should be a lot more likely to get fancy with his ATo.
Bigwig
03-17-2005, 08:18 PM
AA-88, AK-AT, KQ-KJ.

You have to account for two things here.

1. The players hand.
2. The fact that most of the players are dumb.

Even if you take out KQ &amp; KJ, it's still probably a call. Probably.
Bigwig
03-17-2005, 08:22 PM
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SB could have a very wide assortment of hands. I call but I'm not happy about it. If I raised in an earlier position I'd be more likely to fold to the reraise. When you raise first in on the cutoff, the SB should be a lot more likely to get fancy with his ATo.

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Yes, my thoughts exactly.

In fact, I might fold if I was sitting just one seat to the right. It would be much more player dependent at that point.

I guess when I answer I should include stuff like: I'm calling, but I'm not thrilled.

I think you're probably a slight favorite on the average here, and slight normally isn't good enough for me. However, with the money already out there, the odds are just too good. He's getting better than 3:2.
lastchance
03-17-2005, 08:38 PM
You have odds, but I'm pretty scared of being dominated here, and I dunno if he can have AJ or KQ are gonna push (which obviously makes all the difference in the world). That said, call.
1C5
03-17-2005, 08:44 PM
PS, I called and he showed KK.
lastchance
03-17-2005, 08:45 PM
Eh.... Tough spot to be in.
curtains
03-17-2005, 08:52 PM
No problem against KK. Ace should come for sure.
microbet
03-18-2005, 01:37 AM
This one all depends on the range of hands you put the villian on.

With only the info I'm given, I say since he has pretty close to the starting number of chips in the 3rd level he hasn't played too much and I'll give him a pretty narrow range of hands seriously favoring pocket pairs.

If you give him 44+, AK-J you get 43.6% to win.
EV call and win = .298
EV call and lose = .155
EV fold = .216
.436 x .298 + .564 x .155 = .217

So, given a narrow range of hands it is pretty much a toss up. If you think he is enough of a rock that you can drop the AJ, it is a fold. That would drop $EV down to about .212. If he is normal or loose it could be a clear call.

If I wanted to put him on a really narrow range of hands I would say middle PP's and as long as he has Jacks or less it is a call.

So, after a poorly crafted meandering post done as much for my benefit as anyone else's, I say call.

Interesting that a bet of 150 with AQ ends up pot-committing you here.