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theblitz
03-17-2005, 09:26 AM
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

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SB ($26.85)
Hero ($24.4)
UTG ($42.76)
UTG+1 ($22.65)
UTG+2 ($32.85)
MP1 ($10.45)
MP2 ($24.25)
MP3 ($84.65)
CO ($24.65)
Button ($20.1)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.1.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP1 calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB (poster) completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.25</font>, MP1 folds, MP3 calls $2.25, CO calls $2.25, SB folds.

Flop: ($8) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif, 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5</font>, MP3 folds, CO raises to $22.15 (all-in), Hero ?

Results to follow.

Ljungis
03-17-2005, 09:44 AM
Well, I am not an experienced player so take it for what it is...but what could he have? A four? You raised preflop it is not likely or...? Pocket tens - why scare you away when he flopped a full house? Isnīt a single ten like AT most likely? A pocket pair higher then yours would have been raised pre-flop, right?

edge
03-17-2005, 09:55 AM
This totally depends on your read of CO. Can he have a 4 here (ie. is he really loose calling raises)? If not, call it, since you're only losing to TT otherwise. How has he played his big hands before? Is he a frequent bluffer?

I don't think there's a "standard" way to play this hand.

theblitz
03-17-2005, 09:55 AM
I figured it this way:

I am behind AA, KK, and TT.
Only hand I am ahead of is JJ.

So, I folded and he showed ......
(One guess)

Afterwards I realised as you said that AA or KK would have re-raised pre-flop.

Oh well, next time I'll get him.

edge
03-17-2005, 10:04 AM
He showed 32 for the nut low draw?

theblitz
03-17-2005, 10:13 AM
We were both newish at the table and never seen him before so no PT stats either.
That's what made it really hard.

theblitz
03-17-2005, 10:23 AM
Of course he had JJ.
The only reasonable hand that I was ahead of. (Don't tell my English teacher I ended a sentence with a preposition! As they say "A preposition is a bad thing to end a sentence with".)

phobetor
03-17-2005, 10:48 AM
Would your English teacher prefer this???

"The only reasonable hand ahead of that I was."

[ QUOTE ]
Of course he had JJ.
The only reasonable hand that I was ahead of. (Don't tell my English teacher I ended a sentence with a preposition! As they say "A preposition is a bad thing to end a sentence with".)

[/ QUOTE ]

theblitz
03-17-2005, 10:51 AM
Probabaly should be:

"The only reasonable hand of which I am ahead"
or something stupid like that.

phobetor
03-17-2005, 10:58 AM
I just based it on Churchill's response to someone who chided him on that:

"That is the sort of thing up with which I will not put!"

[ QUOTE ]
Probabaly should be:

"The only reasonable hand of which I am ahead"
or something stupid like that.

[/ QUOTE ]

jtr
03-17-2005, 12:28 PM
Ah, Churchill.

"Mr. Churchill, you're drunk!"

"Yes I am, Madam, but in the morning I will be sober whereas you will still be ugly."