flopped set, semi-cordinated board....and a raising war.

[lawpoker]

haven't played with the villian but a few orbits. doesn't seem completely clueless. he makes standard raises and min-raises. nothing out of proportion. semi-aggressive.

when the flop came, i thought my best line would be to bet and let him raise (as he had done a couple times in the last orbit). so i did. my read on his hand was an over-pair, so i raised. now, here is my question...was the raise too big? should i have pushed instead of popping it to $15?

in these situations, where someone plays back at me (like i want them to) i'm never sure of how to proceed. never sure of how much to pop it.

should i be more concerned (than i was at the time) about Villian holding T8 (considering he was on the button)?

oh, and set over set. whatever.

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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">Button ($57.5)</font>
SB ($23.18)
BB ($8.25)
UTG ($35.3)
UTG+1 ($11.1)
UTG+2 ($65.68)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($24)</font>
MP2 ($10.65)
MP3 ($24.9)
CO ($82.35)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $0.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.25.

Flop: ($1.60) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $5</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $15</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $57 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $8.50 (All-In).

Turn: ($82.10) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

River: ($82.10) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $82.10

[webmonarch]

This looks fine to me. I probably would have given a bit of pause to the all-in bet by the villain if you stack size was much bigger, but for your investment already, that was clearly the play. So I guess that answers the question. You may have wanted to push there with only $8 remaining after your raise.

I don't think that you can put a villain on T8 so specifically at that point, although that would really be the hand that he would need to protect with an all-in with the flush draw on the board.

[phobetor]

Button has made such an odd min-raise. I can't see 10-8 - would he raise with 10-8 suited? 'Cause 10-8h is a huge favorite after that flop. I then thought of AJ - that small raise might make sense, and how horrible an outcome for you if it was. Perhaps overpair, or JJ, which is bad too.

I generally hate limping in with middle pair, getting the set, and also seeing a huge straight sitting on the board. Considering he raised it pre-flop, I'd push it too...

[schwza]

i would open-raise pre-flop, and my 3rd bet on the flop would have been a push, but there's virtually zero difference between a push there and your bet. the push maybe looks a little more like a flush draw + straight draw hand.

no way you should not be willing to go to the felt on the flop. there are ~10000 scare cards that might lose you the hnad or kill your action - let the chips fly. if he has T8, hope to suck out; you're not too far behind (i think ~35% to win).