Scuited connectors

[winky51]

If you have a suited connector (54s-JTs) whats the chance of flopping

an open ended or double belly buster straight draw
with or without a flush/straight flush draw?

I got the rest of the figures. I have seen 16%, 9%, 12%. which is right?

[damaniac]

Some odds for you (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Number=1116531&page=0&view=c ollapsed&sb=5&o=14&fpart=1)

[JFB37]

I believe that the odds listed in the link posted for "a hand worth playing" are incorrect and too high. These appear to have been derived simply by adding up the probabilities of different "good" flops. For example:

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Unsuited Max Stretch Connector (JT-54)
1.3% Flop a straight
2% flop 2 pair
1.5% flop trips or full house
11.8% flop 8 outs to straight draw (open ended or DBB)
16.6% flop a hand worth playing - 5 to 1 against


[/ QUOTE ]

This method does not double counts flops that would appear in two of the subcategories. For example, if you hold JTo and the flop is 8-9-T you have a pair and a straight draw. It's a good hand but it is being counted twice in the calculation above.

[pipster]

Well that wouldn't really apply since top pair is not included on the list of "hands worth continuing to play". However it would have some overlap with suited connectors on Flush and straight draws. However those draws are SOOOOO strong (4 to the flush and OESD) that I don't mind them getting counted twice. Since they will come in twice as often.