77 from $320 stars s+g

[curtains]

Heres a hand from a $320 stars sit and go. The table was generally very aggressive.


Level IV (50/100) - 2005/03/16 - 22:57:50 (ET)
Table '6151263 1' Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: cosi (870 in chips)
Seat 3: MuñecoG (4400 in chips)
Seat 4: pjfff (1245 in chips)
Seat 6: curtains (1045 in chips)
Seat 7: moseley8 (2445 in chips)
Seat 8: aucubbie (1810 in chips)
Seat 9: iamzflo (1685 in chips)
aucubbie: posts small blind 50
iamzflo: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to curtains [7s 7c]
cosi: folds
MuñecoG has timed out
MuñecoG: folds
MuñecoG is sitting out
MuñecoG has returned
pjfff: raises 200 to 300
your turn- ?

[Pepsquad]

A read on "pjiff" specifically is helpful, but if he's as aggressive as the rest of the table...push.

[curtains]

The rest of the table was very aggressive, I didn't recall seeing as much action from him however.

[Pepsquad]

Hmmm...in that case I push...WITHOUT the smile on my face.

Pep.

[Bigwig]

I fold. Even with the aggressive stuff.

[networkman]

I'm scared, I fold. /images/graemlins/crazy.gif

[TylerD]

Well I don't think you've got any fold equity and you're probably facing a coin flip or severely dominated. I'd wait for a spot to be the initial aggressor - the blinds aren't crazily big yet and if its a normal Stars (non-turbo) SnG then you can afford a bit more patience.

[Apathy]

The key behind this question imo is folding equity. If you think he could be opening light in late position then it's a good move to push, especially considering that the button and blinds will give you credit for a very big hand and fold a lot of hands that you want out.

However if you haven't seen this player playing particularily aggressive and you think he is a decent observant opponent it would somewhat be foolish for him to open a hand for a quarter of his stack that he will not call an all in with since this table is particularily aggresive.

I would fold.

[EarlCat]

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The key behind this question imo is folding equity.

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Would you say the more agressive a table is, the more chips you need to have fold equity?

[adanthar]

I'm thinking the higher the buyin the lower your edge blah blah push. He doesn't need to be hyper aggro to be raising any ace.

This'd be a better question with 33.

[curtains]

For those that are curious I did go allin and he called and showed AKo. It was against my natural instincts go move allin.

[Apathy]

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The key behind this question imo is folding equity.

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Would you say the more agressive a table is, the more chips you need to have fold equity?

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There are lots of factors that contribute to how much folding equity you have, your own chips being only a small one of them. This topic really deserves a seperate thread if you want to discuss it in more detail.

[Scuba Chuck]

FE aside, the one thing we're failing to consider here is Curtains' reads. Specifically, we have an aggressive table, with a rock who opens with one quarter of his stack. What range of hands would you put this player on?

I think your motivation to push this hand is because you're getting anxious. Be patient, wait for a better hand and let the others knock each other out. It's still 7 handed. This rock has just positioned his stack like tanks on the plains, ready to fire. He is ready to do battle, he likes his hand. My range is AQ+, 77+. Your hand sucks here. Be patient.

While I am a big proponent of folding equity in SNGs, the fact that he is a rock, won't change his mind if you had his stack covered. FE is irrelevant here.

If this raise came from one of the more aggressive players, who have played a number of hands, I would consider playing this hand. If there were only 4 players left, I would consider playing this hand.

[curtains]

I believe I should have folded here.