Live NL Tourney Grand Casino Tunica, MS (Bubble Play)

[Dentist]

$100+30 Freezout tourney at the Grand
70 Players, 10 spots Pay Casino added a whopping $5K to the prizepool.

10th pays a very nice $700

11 Players left.. my table is 5 handed.

I am in approx 8th place.. there are some shorter stacks.. but I'm very short in relation to the blinds.

In fact I have about SIX BB's

Before the cards were dealt.. a big stack in the BB (an aggressive guy, but solid) said: "If you try to steal.. I'll Call" to the whole table.

I am on the BUTTON and a big stack was the BB.

I pick up RED 8's

it is folded to me

What is your play? Push because you really need the blinds and even better you'd like to double to have a chance at the big money in the final 3 spots?

or fold and let someone shorter get eliminated to guarantee yourself some money?

[doggin]

I know this is not the proper approach, but after winning
the 4300 dollars in your previous tourney (I assume it's after), I'd sure as hell push.

If this was my first tourney down there and I needed the 700.00, I may try and try to fold into the 700.

[Msogard]

You didn't say how big the "big stack" was, but it'd be hard for me not to push here. Surely the chance of doubling up and making 1st-3rd for a nice payday compensates for the times that you go out in 11th and get nothing. You'll probably pick up the blinds anyway. Only if I really needed the $700 and 9th and 10th place were extremely short.

[MicroBob]

So it's $12k total in the prize-pool??

And how is the prize-pool distributed??

If it's a flatter pay-out structure throughout AND the other guys are REALLY short on chips I would strongly consider folding into the money.


Reason being that 10th pays 7x the buy-in which is a fairly decent amount.
But again, it depends on how much the other places pay too.


If it is $12k in the prize-pool than $700 for 10th is pretty decent since I suspect that 1st doesn't pay much more than $2000.

I'm also guessing that one of the short stacks has 2 or 3 BB's (is there an ante at this point? that makes a difference too) and hopefully has a BB coming up.


If I'm picturing most of the scenario correctly then I'm probably not going to play the 88 here.

[CardSharpCook]

Man, I sure hope this fish is as good as his word.

CSC

[ThrillFactor]

I'm pushing.

Edit: without a second thought

[CardSharpCook]

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I'm pushing.

Edit: without a second thought

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Was that a second thought?

CSC

[Mammux]

With a normal prize structure, I would push here for a 70/30 against bb's random hand. If the structure is as flat as has been suggested, I might fold.

-Magnus

[Dentist]

I don't remember the exact payouts

But i'm pretty sure first place was around $3500+

Yes, there was about 12K in the prize pool

[Dentist]

The big stack had probably about 50+ K (i forget)
And this tournament was my first one... not after the big score.

I pushed with the 88, the BB looked at his hand, smiled, called and turned over AA and I was out in 11th.

[37offsuit]

I've used the same tactic at times in tournys before.

Sometimes this loosens the table up a little and you get a few limpers who don't expect anyone to try to steal from someone who just said they won't be stollen from. They figure their action is safer.

Sometimes it gets folded around to you and you get the small blind/antes without risk.

Sometimes you wake up with a monster and the guy who was going to raise you and instead limped now thinks you're putting a move on and will call with inferior holdings.

All of that said, unless the prize structure is pretty well spread or you really need that $700, I'd push here.

[37offsuit]

I just suggested that you push. Now knowing that he had AA, this is a clear fold /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[yecul]

Don't push into people who have AA. I think that's somewhere in TPfAP, no?