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johnnybeef
03-16-2005, 10:29 PM
***** Hand History for Game 1746615608 *****
NL Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:10452471 Level:1 Blinds(10/15) - Wednesday, March 16, 21:14:10 EDT 2005
Table Table 13997 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: PurpleCooter ( $1280 )
Seat 2: zenfurni ( $770 )
Seat 3: rsteel ( $1045 )
Seat 4: bomax ( $480 )
Seat 5: dtack1 ( $760 )
Seat 6: dielaettner ( $740 )
Seat 7: martino13 ( $525 )
Seat 8: robinoo ( $650 )
Seat 9: Sleepstill12 ( $1750 )
Trny:10452471 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Sleepstill12 [ 6s 7h ]
PurpleCooter did not respond in time.
PurpleCooter folds.
zenfurni folds.
rsteel calls [15].
bomax calls [15].
dtack1 calls [15].
dielaettner calls [15].
martino13 folds.
robinoo calls [5].
Sleepstill12 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6h, 7s, Ah ]
robinoo checks.
Sleepstill12 checks.
rsteel bets [15].
bomax calls [15].
dtack1 calls [15].
dielaettner folds.
robinoo calls [15].
Sleepstill12 raises [125].
rsteel calls [110].
bomax folds.
dtack1 folds.
robinoo folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 7d ]
Sleepstill12 checks.
rsteel bets [50].
Sleepstill12 calls [50].
** Dealing River ** [ Ks ]
>You have options at Table 13865 Table!.
Your time bank will become active in less than 20 seconds. If you do not want it to be used, please act now.
Sleepstill12 bets [225].
rsteel folds.
Sleepstill12 does not show cards.
Sleepstill12 wins 710 chips
Game #1746629416 starts.

my thinking on the flop was that there was an ace on the board which someone surely would bet. since he bet the turn after i checked, i figured hed call a bet on the river...obviously i was wrong. do you think that i bet too much and or should i have checked it to him?

curtains
03-16-2005, 10:34 PM
I absolutely bet the turn here. A flush draw is a very likely holding for your opponent, and this may be the only time he will pay you off. If he has a flush draw he may gladly pay you off for 200-250 chips here. If he has an ace, he will probably pay you off too.

Don't get into the habit of instinctively checking whenever you make a big hand. Sometimes it makes sense , but I don't see the logic behind it here. This guy called a huge bet on the flop, and I see no reason why he won't call another one.

adanthar
03-16-2005, 10:57 PM
You can't check the turn. You can underbet it (200-300) to make the draw think he has odds, but not check it.

Also, CR'ing the flop isn't a great idea because an ace that may fold to a CR will call three decent bets.

johnnybeef
03-16-2005, 11:08 PM
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CR'ing the flop isn't a great idea because an ace that may fold to a CR will call three decent bets.

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i didnt want to play a multiway pot with bottom two pair.

david050173
03-16-2005, 11:38 PM
Why didn't you check raise the turn? Personally after check raising the flop, I almost always lead out with a bet. You have figure either has a ace or a flush draw. If he has the flush draw your odds of him paying you off with anything if the flush doesn't hit are about zero.

johnnybeef
03-16-2005, 11:54 PM
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Why didn't you check raise the turn? Personally after check raising the flop, I almost always lead out with a bet. You have figure either has a ace or a flush draw. If he has the flush draw your odds of him paying you off with anything if the flush doesn't hit are about zero.

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i usually bet out after a cr also, but my hand turned into a monster. i wanted him to hit his flush or spike his kicker. in other words, i felt that checking the turn was the best way for me to break him. that being said, no one has answered my question yet...given the course of events, what is the best way to maximize profit on the river?

ZebraAss
03-17-2005, 12:28 AM
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I absolutely bet the turn here. A flush draw is a very likely holding for your opponent, and this may be the only time he will pay you off. If he has a flush draw he may gladly pay you off for 200-250 chips here. If he has an ace, he will probably pay you off too.

Don't get into the habit of instinctively checking whenever you make a big hand. Sometimes it makes sense , but I don't see the logic behind it here. This guy called a huge bet on the flop, and I see no reason why he won't call another one.


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Great answer

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You can't check the turn. You can underbet it (200-300) to make the draw think he has odds, but not check it.

Also, CR'ing the flop isn't a great idea because an ace that may fold to a CR will call three decent bets.

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End of thread. There is nothing more to be said.


PS: On the river, I think betting what ever he has left is what you should do. But considering the situation your bet is fine.

johnnybeef
03-17-2005, 12:33 AM
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PS: On the river, I think betting what ever he has left is what you should do.

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how would i get any value out of that?