KK hand fold to reraise on river. Please critique all streets.

[lehighguy]

Villian is loose 40/6, but he's isn't a maniac or anything.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 5 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

MP ($50.7)
Hero ($265.4)
SB ($228.05)
BB ($187.85)
UTG ($101.2)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.5.
UTG calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls $3.

Flop: ($9.50) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $7</font>, UTG calls $7.

Turn: ($23.50) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $10</font>, Hero calls $10.

River: ($43.50) T/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $20</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $40</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $103.50

Villian went all in on river for another $40 and I folded, doesn't seem to have worked in the hand converter.

[tbach24]

DO NOT RAISE THAT RIVER AFTER CALLING THE TURN.

[zaxx19]

WTF you thinking on the turn there?? Im seriously curious.

[tbach24]

If hero is aggressive with both sets and TP, then the call is fine. However, if he's not a retard, then it's a clear fold.

[Yeknom58]

What hand calls the river raise? Exacly AQ and thats it! So do you think he has exactly AQ?

On the turn he bet 10 into a 23 pot..I would probably raise it to 30 here.

[tbach24]

Wow, nevermind, this is a line I might take with TP. Take off this card and just call the river.

[kongo_totte]

I don't see anything wrong in calling the turn. Isn't everyone always whining about keeping the pot small w/ a 1 pair hand. There is no obvious draw (an A on river would suck though).

I'm playing it excactly the same, except fro the river. What excactly are you trying to accomplish with that rasie?

[Yeknom58]

Since his opponent is know to be very loose but not crazy I assume the random turn bet by his opponent to mean one of 3 things.

1. He has a bare queen and was "slowplaying" on the flop and waited for a non A/K turn.
2. He has picked up a draw..diamond draw or straight draw. Seems reasonable considering the opponent.
3. Has hit 2 pair or has a set.

Seems to me I want to raise in 2 out of 3 scenarios. And if he comes over the top it looks like an easy fold as the opponent is a non maniac. If I call call I'm paying off a pot sized bet ( up to 40) on the river anyway so I'm raising on the turn as it probably saves me 20 bucks if I'm behind (assuming he bets pot on river) and I charge the drawing hands the most. I'm not saying raising is definitely bets but I think its probably better.

[lehighguy]

When he bet the turn I figured he had a queen. My guess is a set would check again. I bluff at almost every flop when I preflop rais, but often back off on the turn. His taking this line seemed completely plausible he had a queen.

That being said I figured I'd get him to bet into me on the river as well. If he has a low kicker queen he will probably fold to a raise on the turn. However, I often forget that even if he does have just a queen he has 5 outs to make two pair or trips assuming no other draws. So perhaps you are all right about raising the turn.

As for the river I figure if he has a queen and I'm ahead then I should minraise, as he'll likely call in this large pot. If I'm behind I shouldn't even be calling. If he pushes me back after a raise like that I can be sure that he can beat an overpair. I'm pretty sure he hit a set or something.

[joewatch]

Loose-passives usually have hands that beat TPTK if they bet. My guess is that villain made 2-pair on the turn. To beat loose-passives you must play tight-aggressive. I fold to this bet on the turn.

[PoBoy321]

Check/call on a drawless flop + Lead on the turn = Bad news

[lehighguy]

Do you not even call down with overpair. I've seen these people do some crazy [censored].

[PoBoy321]

Getting 3:1 on my calls on the turn and river, I'm definitely calling down, but I'm not going nuts.

[meow_meow]

I'm surprised nobody has said this - if you are going to fold to a reraise, why are you raising the river? The whole hand looks fine to me up to that point, although I'd consider raising the turn.

When you are last to act on the river, consider whether you can call a reraise before betting or raising.

[lehighguy]

I can't see how he can reraise me with less then two pair. However, I can see him calling with queens.