what would you do?

[peccotrice]

Foxwoods AM NL, no-rebuy tourney. About 75% of the players are left, 3 rounds have gone by, I have the average stack.

I get A8s and raise 3XBB. get just one caller. Flop hits 7-7-X, 2 spades. I'm one card from the nut flush. I bet the pot - he pushes all in. I have enough to cover plus only about 4BB.

What would you do?

[GreywolfNYC]

Well, since you put yourself into this position by raising with Ace/crap suited, it's time to go into fold-o-matic mode.

[ksuns]

Is this happening real time or are you attempting to be suspensful and not tell us the outcome?

[peccotrice]

I'm looking to see if you'd call his all in on the flush draw - knowing you'd have trips beat.

[mostsmooth]

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Is this happening real time or are you attempting to be suspensful and not tell us the outcome?

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im gonna bet he already called the allin and left himself with 4bb or so

[peccotrice]

Do you really think this is a live game? I don't have a laptop sitting at the table so I can ask for time and post here for what should be done.

[OrangeKing]

I think at least estimated stack sizes are necessary to make a recommendation here.

[peccotrice]

Stack sizes between the two of use were about the same, i had more, I'd say I had 1900 he had 1500. I believe the blinds were at 50-100. Preflop bet/call was was 300. I had enough to call his all in and have about 400 left over.

[UMCorona]

I'd fold here and wait for a better spot.

[PokerFink]

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Stack sizes between the two of use were about the same, i had more, I'd say I had 1900 he had 1500. I believe the blinds were at 50-100. Preflop bet/call was was 300. I had enough to call his all in and have about 400 left over.

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So you bet 300 preflop, he called, + the blinds is 750.

You pot it on the flop for 750, and he pushes in for 450 more? So you're getting 2700-450 to call with an ace high flush draw?

I would insta-call this. I would beat him into the pot. Either these stack sizes are wrong or you're kidding.

EDIT: I'm not going to put half my stack in like this and then fold. If you're going to pot it on the flop you might as well just move in to begin with.

[peccotrice]

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Stack sizes between the two of use were about the same, i had more, I'd say I had 1900 he had 1500. I believe the blinds were at 50-100. Preflop bet/call was was 300. I had enough to call his all in and have about 400 left over.

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So you bet 300 preflop, he called, + the blinds is 750.

You pot it on the flop for 750, and he pushes in for 450 more? So you're getting 2700-450 to call with an ace high flush draw?

I would insta-call this. I would beat him into the pot. Either these stack sizes are wrong or you're kidding.

EDIT: I'm not going to put half my stack in like this and then fold. If you're going to pot it on the flop you might as well just move in to begin with.

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You're right. My mistake. I bet 300 preflop, he called, making the pot 750 as you stated. Flop came. I bet, but not the 750 of the pot. It was more like 200, he pushed to make it a 1000 call. so now it's what... 2150-1000 to call the ace high flush draw.

[AlienCorpse]

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Do you really think this is a live game? I don't have a laptop sitting at the table so I can ask for time and post here for what should be done.

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I think it was because of this "About 75% of the players are left". Change it to About 75% of the players were left."

[GussHanslson]

fold, 2early and not getting the odds

[pollyson]

HAHA this one is easy...i dont play Arag suited from anywhere but the button /images/graemlins/smile.gif if i were in this situation i would decide if he had something like 5s or 6s trips or a pair bigger than 8s...if hes got a pair bigger than 8s ur about a coinflip..if hes got 5s or 6s or a fav and if hes got trips uve got either 8 or 7 outs...odds are he called with either a small pair or something that doesnt ahve u dead to only spades...a call isnt horrible here but u wouldnt get into this marginal situation if u lay the ax suiteds down early in a tourney

[jpg7n16]

Dont forget that you have 9 outs for your flush and if he has trips already, one of those 9 spades gives him a boat(his other pocket card)... and the outs from runner-runner 8's and A's... so you really only have roughly 9 reliable outs. (assuming he already has trips on the flop). He on the other hand has the other 7, the 3 other X cards on the flop, and the 3 other cards like his other pocket card all as outs even if you catch your flush. Every other card in the deck is an out for him too if you don't catch your flush.

Ie. Your ~9 outs vs. his 7 outs that beat yours and
your 0 cards to his every other card (about 25-30) in the deck.

Which side has the best odds of winning?? I'm goin with the trips.

I tend to risk my stack when I'm the one with all the outs. Maybe that's just me, but I wouldn't spend that much for a hand that has too many options to lose.

My suggestion: fold