10/20 Bluff

[Your Mom]

Normal 10/20 Party 5 handed.. BB here is a thinking player, but he doesn't think very well if you know what i mean. I am UTG with QJ and raise. Only the BB calls.

Flop is TT5. I am check raised. I call.

Turn is an A. He bets, I call.

River is an A. He bets, I raise.

[emonrad87]

Im not sure I really even like the UTG raise. I've been folding it at 5/10 6max. I'm new to 6max tho, so I could be wrong.

Do you really think he has a 5 or a low pocket here enough to make that raise good?

Oh, woops. It's a bluff. Is he going to fold this enough?

[balkii]

why not semibluff raise the turn? you probably have 10 outs and lots of fold equity with that card and the way the hand has played out so far.

[Your Mom]

QJo UTG raise depends on your image. I had a strong image - hence it being folded around to the BB so I thought it was the right play. QJs, I am raising every time under the gun. Also, keep it mind this was 5 handed, not 6, so that changes things a bit.

[Your Mom]

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why not semibluff raise the turn? you probably have 10 outs and lots of fold equity with that card and the way the hand has played out so far.

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I considered this greatly and think it probably is the right play. At the time, I thought I had no folding equity witht that play against this player.

[Trix]

I think you had the best hand if he folded unless he held exactly K5...

[Rudis]

I like the play if a second A did not hit. He knows you know he doesn't have a ten. He knows you would raise on the ace to get him to fold. He wouldn't fold. BUT most people don't figure the delayed bluff. =)
As it is now it looks as if though it's more for value...

[ALL1N]

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I had a strong image

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This turns me off this sort of play instantaneously.

Also, as Trix pointed out, the river raise achieves nothing. Call is better.

[Mr. Graff]

I think call is better as well - swallow the fishiness of it.

[helpmeout]

Not many people fold a showdownable hand on the river for 1 bet.

Is he folding a ten? not likely

An Ace? nope

Would he pay off a raise with anything less than a Q, I doubt it.

I really dont see the point in this raise. Better hands arent folding and worse ones arent calling.

[Grisgra]

You might get a king to fold . . . question is whether there's a, what, ~15% chance that he's doing this with K-high, right? 7 bets in the pot, you're calling down, if you can get him to fold a king you'll take the pot where you'd lose it otherwise.

So I dunno. What's the chance he's doing this with K-high? I think a counterfeited pocket pair or a lucky ace is more likely, but hey, I can see you putting the chance he's got a king at around 15%. In which case, very good raise, and one I probably wouldn't have thought to make.

[Your Mom]

He folded, I win. A turn raise is much better I think.

[mmcd]

This wasn't a bluff.

[Grisgra]

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This wasn't a bluff.

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Don't be foolish, of course it was. You think he was value-raising Q-high, and expecting something worse than his hand to call?

[Jeff W]

Grisgra:

Consider also that his opponent may fold a Q and he will win the whole pot sometimes instead of half the pot.