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KooJo

03-15-2005, 11:03 PM

This was my first hand at the table, so I had no read on villain.

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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif. Hero posts a blind of $0.5.
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero (poster) raises, 2 folds, SB calls, 1 fold, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (13 SB) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (6 players)
SB bets, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (10.50 BB) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, Hero calls.

River: (16.50 BB) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 18.50 BB

Did I play this right?

hate

03-15-2005, 11:10 PM

I'd cap the flop, and if he still leads into you on the turn then call down unless you fill up. Your line might be better, but I really don't want to be 3-bet on the turn.

Shillx

03-15-2005, 11:14 PM

I think you played it perfectly. Nice hand.

Brad

hate

03-15-2005, 11:17 PM

What's the purpose for calling the flop 3-bet rather than capping it? Aren't we just risking an unprofitable 3 bets on the turn if he really did flop a straight?

caggin

03-15-2005, 11:20 PM

I think I would've capped the flop, and if he continued betting the turn, just call down. (I have weak tight tendencies, tho, so I may be wrong.)

istewart

03-15-2005, 11:22 PM

Raising the turn after not capping the flop is a bit weird, I think. Doesn't change the hand that much IMHO, Hero still slowed down appropriately.

hate

03-15-2005, 11:26 PM

I'd easily be doing this for added value when I'm a little more sure top set is currently winning. He's going to call your raise in a pot that big. I think here he might be sitting on a lower set or two-pair enough to take his line, but I dunno.

tiltaholic

03-15-2005, 11:34 PM

not capping the flop encourages villian to bet into us on the turn, so we can raise. capping the flop will usually precipitate a check on the turn if the villian has a hand we beat, when we'd like him to bet into us.

to the OP, i'd have capped the turn because I just don't think he flopped a straight. then if he led the river i'd call down. but i tend to spew when i have top set on a very unthreatening board (excluding exactly one hand)

istewart

03-15-2005, 11:40 PM

SB has bet into and 3-bet a preflop raiser though. He is likely to have a hand worth betting again on the turn. I would be surprised if he checked a rag turn if Hero capped. T8, QT, J9, Q8, 88. Whatever, I'm not going to argue about minutiae /images/graemlins/smile.gif