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Namebejed7
03-15-2005, 03:26 PM
Very little reads as I am multitabling and only in level 2 here, but main villian had made his stack when his 92s from BB beat UTG's AKo when a 9 turned w/ Q and J on board.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

CO (t785)
Button (t760)
SB (t740)
BB (t780)
Hero (t1755)
UTG+1 (t500)
MP1 (t1755)
MP2 (t925)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t100</font>, UTG+1 calls t100, MP1 calls t100, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls t100, SB calls t85, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (t530) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t500</font>, MP1 calls t500, SB folds, Hero calls t160, MP1 calls t160.

Turn: (t1850) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>

River: (t1850) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>

Final Pot: t1850


I hate getting this many calls preflop, and really hate that much action against my flop bet, especially the call from the only stack that could bust me. Is there any move to consider on the turn besides a (t995) push?
microbet
03-15-2005, 03:33 PM
Something is screwed up on the flop betting. What really happened?
johnnybeef
03-15-2005, 03:38 PM
no, i definately do not go broke here. you really need to check the flop considering that 5 players saw it and you missed it completely.

edit: nevermind, i didnt realize that the king hit on the flop...i like a check on the turn, in which i would call any bet. and then a value bet on the river if it is checked behind you on the turn.
Namebejed7
03-15-2005, 03:47 PM
I hit TPTK on a two suited board, pot was 530 and as first to act I bet 500.
citanul
03-15-2005, 03:54 PM
yes, you bet 500... then what happened? and on the turn?

citanul
Namebejed7
03-15-2005, 03:59 PM
I see what you are saying, Button pushed for 660 and myself and MP called. I was trying to keep my turn action to myself until I heard other responses, but I will post it in white. If you want results, let me know, I was trying to keep anything that may bias advice until asked.

<font color="white"> I pushed for 995 on the turn into MP, who had me exactly covered. I don't like check calling the rest of the way, because if my money is going in the middle I like to be the one putting it in. </font>
Scuba Chuck
03-15-2005, 04:27 PM
Your play looks good to me. I assume you lost to a made set? If so, then that was your job on this hand, move on.

Consider the alternative. Say you raise to only 200 chips. Villain sees that as a sign of weakness, and he pushes allin. What more information do you now know? How does this change your play? Your chips are still going in the middle. By betting so strong, you're revealing your hand - "I have a King. Anyone who plays had better beware." And the one thing you can't do here is give free cards, so checking is out of the question.
citanul
03-15-2005, 04:37 PM
I'd bet it all, or bet less, on the flop. if it had allowed me to push over the small reraise, i'd have done that too.

citanul
Namebejed7
03-15-2005, 04:40 PM
Well, the general opinion seems to go along with me, I was just checking to see if anyone gives the smooth call on the flop enough credit to check fold the flop. (Comical) Results in white. I also noticed that the converter left off UTG+1 calling all in for 400

<font color="white"> Villian has 8d 8s
UTG+1 has As Kh
Hero has Ah Kc
Button has Ac Ks </font>
microbet
03-15-2005, 05:01 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Flop: (t530) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t500</font>, MP1 calls t500, SB folds, Hero calls t160, MP1 calls t160.

[/ QUOTE ]

How did you call the 160?
Scuba Chuck
03-15-2005, 05:02 PM
There is something to learn from this. MP1 (I assume is the villain) has HUGE implied odds to call this here (and is not too damaging if he doesn't hit because of his large current stack size). Primarily because there are two bettors in front of him. With 3 other players in a 3+xBB raised pot, there is a good probability all the chips will be going in the middle by somebody.

I don't suggest this if you have less than 1100 chips tho.
Namebejed7
03-15-2005, 05:05 PM
Button pushed for 660. Its also missing the UTG+1 call for 400 (Allin)