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ihardlyknowher

03-15-2005, 02:51 PM

Villain1 is slightly loose and aggressive. Villain2 is very loose and passive.

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
3 folds, MP1 raises, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, CO calls, Button (Villain1) caps, SB (Villain2) calls, 1 fold, MP1 folds, Hero calls, CO calls.

Flop: (19 SB) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif (4 players)
Villain2 checks, Hero checks, CO checks, Villain1 bets, Villain2 calls, Hero calls, CO calls.

Turn: (11.50 BB) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif (4 players)
Villain2 checks, Hero checks, CO checks, Villain1 bets, Villain2 calls, Hero raises, CO folds, Villain1 3-bets, Villain2 calls, Hero caps, Villain1 calls, Villain2 calls.

River: (23.50 BB) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 players)
Villain2 checks, Hero bets, Villain1 folds, Villain2 folds.

Final Pot: 24.50 BB

sean c

03-15-2005, 02:59 PM

no you have #2 trapped. I do think I would have led the flop to try to start building a pot earlier.

istewart

03-15-2005, 03:06 PM

I'd really just be leading out here. They're not folding.

davelin

03-15-2005, 03:24 PM

FWIW I hate the fact that this hand could've possibly went to the river with just 1SB going in.

btspider

03-15-2005, 03:26 PM

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Yobz

03-15-2005, 03:41 PM

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I couldn't agree more, it was capped PF, do you think they will fold to a bet on the flop or the turn? Bet!!

noneckdude

03-15-2005, 04:13 PM

I think you played it perfectly. Just calling the re-raise on the turn with the intention of check-raising the river could only be profitable when you are very sure Villain1 will bet behind you AND Villain2 will call. (You can't really count on Villain2 to bet on the river, he's been calling all the way and has 2 agressive players behind him.) If Villain2 doesn't call Villain1's bet, you're even money at best to the play actually you made.

dkernler

03-15-2005, 04:20 PM

Just lead out on the flop and hope they have AA and KK. They capped PF and you have an almost unbeatable hand. They won't know what hit them until too late.

DoctorDrew

03-15-2005, 04:38 PM

I would lead the flop and continue to get money in this pot with a trapped player between each of you.

droolie

03-15-2005, 05:03 PM

FPS

I agree with everyone else that betting the flop is better. You will most likely get raised then you can think about getting fancy and smooth calling. The C/R of the turn worked but was very high risk. It also demonstrates how you might have made a lot more if you had decided to put in some more bets on the flop.

The problem with waiting for the turn is that it looks like either a slowplay or you caught something huge with the turn card. Either way many good players will slow down dramatically to the C/R. If you start raising the flop, AA will keep pushing back hoping you have KK or QQ or even AK.

Isura

03-15-2005, 06:44 PM

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KaiShin

03-15-2005, 07:07 PM

I think you missed a bunch of bets, albeit small ones.