View Full Version : Where can I find all 169 hold 'em hands??
Prowler
03-15-2005, 10:47 AM
Hi all,
I am trying to track down a list of the 169 hold 'em starting hands (not all of their permutations) and their "starting value". Finding the top 10 or 20 seems simple enough but nowhere can I find the entire list. Hope this is clear and any help is greatly appreciated,
Thanks in advance.
Cobra
03-15-2005, 11:53 AM
I can not say wether the numbers are accurated but here is a web site that lists all the hands.
http://poker.worldzonepro.com/nofoldemholdem001020.html
Cobra
eastbay
03-15-2005, 12:07 PM
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Hi all,
I am trying to track down a list of the 169 hold 'em starting hands (not all of their permutations) and their "starting value".
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"Starting value" is meaningless. Limit or no-limit? Passive game or aggressive game? Deep money or shallow money? There is no such thing as a pat "starting value."
Are you talking about something like the S-M preflop groups? Why not just buy one of their hold 'em books?
eastbay
slickpoppa
03-15-2005, 01:19 PM
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Hi all,
I am trying to track down a list of the 169 hold 'em starting hands (not all of their permutations) and their "starting value".
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"Starting value" is meaningless. Limit or no-limit? Passive game or aggressive game? Deep money or shallow money? There is no such thing as a pat "starting value."
Are you talking about something like the S-M preflop groups? Why not just buy one of their hold 'em books?
eastbay
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I think basically what he is asking for is a chart that lists the probability that a hand will win against a random number of opponents. There is that gocee site that has a chart like that, but I can't remember the link.
pzhon
03-15-2005, 06:44 PM
Percentage of pots won against random hands:
http://gocee.com/poker/HE_Value.htm
PokerRoom data on how hands fared, averaged over all positions and games:
http://teamfu.freeshell.org/poker_hands.html
Prowler
03-16-2005, 02:12 PM
Many, many thanks all!
Greatly appreciated!
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