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Prevaricator
03-15-2005, 12:49 AM
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 max, 6 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

SB ($3144.26)
Hero ($930)
UTG ($1131.5)
MP ($2611)
CO ($638)
Button ($1799)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif. SB posts a blind of $5.
UTG calls $10, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $35</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $35, SB (poster) calls $30, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $170</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $325</font>, MP folds, Button calls $290, SB folds, Hero ???

No read on the UTG, but Button is a donkey.

Kaz The Original
03-15-2005, 12:53 AM
$155 to call into a $800 pot? 1 in 6? You don't need much in terms of implieds odds here.

How likely do you think it is for him to have AA? Why would he tell you his hand but not protect it with a big raise?

So the question is, take a flop or not? If you take a flop, are you check folding if there's no king?

I think folding is clearly out.

Prevaricator
03-15-2005, 01:06 AM
What is the button calling with??

Am i getting implied odds for a set? -- both players need to be in when a K hits for me to be getting them.

Also, is my hand the best right now?

mcb
03-15-2005, 01:07 AM
I have definatly seen QQ and AK pull reraises like this at the party 6-max. Without a great read I would see a flop.

ArtVandelay
03-15-2005, 01:08 AM
min-raise again... no really, I'm serious

a lot of potential value in this hand comes from the button (based on your read of him), so take a line that gets him to commit as much money as possible now (when you are almost certainly beating him)

okay, I'm not 100% serious, but it is an interesting line to comtemplate... and if you're going to get stacked by AA you at least should have some fun with it d;

Prevaricator
03-15-2005, 01:15 AM
i tihnk if i raise again it needs to be a push

bigfishead
03-15-2005, 01:22 AM
This is rough. 6 handed...I hate seeing UTG limp re-raise when I have KK anyways but 6 handed is really a drag. I think I call the re-raise and push to no Ace on the board. 6 handed I just cant let go and if they have AA they are gonna bust me. The button cold calling all this action is scary too. QQ? AKs? JJ?

ArtVandelay
03-15-2005, 01:35 AM
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i tihnk if i raise again it needs to be a push

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no no no, that's exactly my point... if you are going to raise again you should raise small

obviously neither opponent will fold aces, so by pushing all you do is make it more likely they fold QQ or AK (or, God forbid, JJ,TT, or AQ)... I would particularly like it if button was between you and UTG, but even so, if you raise at all you should definitely raise (relatively) small to tie them to their hands

Prevaricator
03-15-2005, 01:45 AM
i am not raising for information if i raise its because i think its the best hand. what if AA is tricky and smooth calls too.