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deepsquat
03-15-2005, 12:03 AM
Is this flop fold ok?

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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, CO calls.

Flop: (15.40 SB) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 3-bets</font>, Hero folds, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

My flop line was to lead out and let button clear the field for me. kind of backfired.

Turn: (14.70 BB) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, ($0.50)BB calls.

River: (16.34 BB) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: 16.34 BB

btspider
03-15-2005, 12:16 AM
(i am assuming UTG+1 went all-in on the turn for 1/2 BB and button just called)

the issue i have with this hand is you wanted button to raise, which he did, and then an all-in monkey scares you out of the hand. when button caps, you probably feel better about your hand (though his big street play sucks if he has AA/KK), but at the point of your fold, he could easily be holding onto AK as you hoped.

i'd probably call the 2 bets. if button only calls behind me.. i'd raise UTG+1's all-in turn bet. that's the best chance you have to fold AK. if he caps... you're in a tough spot b/c you have odds to call 1/2 BB on the turn, but button should be raising the all-in bet following the flop action. you'd probably be laying down to the turn 1/2 bet and curse button when he doesn't raise. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

edit: didn't look at the stakes.. its a full BB bet on the turn.. so that simplifies things.. unless the 50c is button's raise.. eh, it doesn't change much.

deepsquat
03-15-2005, 12:21 AM
yes, he went ALL-In on the turn.