Flop raise to clean up overs ok?

[Buckmulligan]

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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, Hero calls, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, Button calls, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (22 SB) J/images/graemlins/club.gif, 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP2 calls, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, UTG calls.

Turn: (14 BB) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls, MP2 calls.

River: (17 BB) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero folds, MP2 folds.

Final Pot: 18 BB

[istewart]

Getting 25:2 they're still correct to call with most things. I might just call. But what do I know /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[kenberman]

I'm not sure you're really cleaning up any over - the only bigger K - or Q - is AK and AQ. both these hands can still call getting 12-1.

[btspider]

i'd probably just fold this (as UTG+1 did) without a bd flush draw.

[Buckmulligan]

But i improve my chances of winning

[Entity]

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But i improve my chances of winning

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How much do you really think you improve your odds by here?

I dislike the preflop coldcall and hate the flop raise.

Rob

[Firefly]

I don't like it. You have two average overcards, and no one with a good K or Q is leaving anyway. I'd fold. Pre-flop is debateable...i would fold, becasue i dislike KQ :P

[djhoneybear]

In my mind the only legitimate reason to raise the flop would be to buy a free card with a reasonable draw or a combination of several longshots. This play requires favorable position, a generally passive table and a reasonable draw. I don't think your hand meets any of these conditions.

I also feel like you shouldn't be involved in this hand from the beginning unless you have strong evidence that there is a wide range of hands villian will raise with preflop

[ArturiusX]

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I don't like it. You have two average overcards, and no one with a good K or Q is leaving anyway. I'd fold. Pre-flop is debateable...i would fold, becasue i dislike KQ :P

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Even suited? I'd re-raise.

[deepsquat]

is KQs considered a bad cold call at a tabel where u know 4 or 5 will see the flop?

[btspider]

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I don't like it. You have two average overcards, and no one with a good K or Q is leaving anyway. I'd fold. Pre-flop is debateable...i would fold, becasue i dislike KQ :P

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Even suited? I'd re-raise.

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so what range are you putting an unknown EP PF raiser on?

[btspider]

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is KQs considered a bad cold call at a tabel where u know 4 or 5 will see the flop?

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its meh. your relative and absolute positions suck here.. so it might be a small mistake.

[Firefly]

I wouldn't say it would be horrible. But KQ is dominated in so many ways, you have to be careful with it. KQo is a no cold call for me, KQs..meh..just don't get married to it

[Firefly]

3-bet KQs against an EP raise? Cold calling is debatable..3-betting is wayyyy out there. Is there a particular reason you would 3-bet this?