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SlantNGo
03-14-2005, 09:58 PM
BB has lost several showdowns in a row and appears to be steaming from what I see in the chatterbox. Only had about 20ish hands on him. No real read on SB.

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Preflop: Hero is CO with K/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Foolish limp? I normally raise this... I think I was a bit on tilt myself.

Flop: (9 SB) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls, SB folds.

Raise here to drive out SB? I want a cheap showdown with BB. If BB had shown himself to be straightforward, I would raise here and consider laying down to a 3-bet.

Turn: (5.50 BB) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (7.50 BB) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9.50 BB

Chris Daddy Cool
03-14-2005, 10:06 PM
waht the hell is up with the open limp on the CO? just raise. people will play back at you if you raise from there thinking you're on a steal.

there's really no need to raise the flop. unless sb or bb has specifically a flush draw they're usually drawing to at most 2 outs against you on the AAx board or have you draing to 2 outs yourself.

mungpo
03-14-2005, 10:16 PM
Limp-raise with KK? Bet this normally preflop, no need to get fancy. Reraise on the flop, if BB 3-bets you can fold the turn UI.

Anyone disagree with folding on the turn UI?

milesdyson
03-14-2005, 10:22 PM
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Reraise on the flop

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Why?

mungpo
03-14-2005, 10:34 PM
If I reraise BB in this spot and then BB 3-bets me, I know I am drawing dead. What if BB just calls my reraise? Then there is a possible chance of getting a free card on the turn.

Is this a bad assumption? Should I not be reraising in this spot?

SlantNGo
03-14-2005, 10:40 PM
Against a straightforward opponent I might raise the flop, bet the turn, then check behind on the river for a cheaper showdown, and like you said, fold to a 3-bet. This was a guy I suspected was steaming, and wtf is up with the bet into 2 PFRs? Wouldn't you expect a check/raise with an Ace?

istewart
03-14-2005, 10:40 PM
I don't think you're that interested in getting a free card. It's way ahead or way behind; if you raise, he'll fold hands you beat that would've continued to bet. And he might very well just call a raise with an ace on the flop, giving you little information.

mungpo
03-14-2005, 10:43 PM
I want him to just call with an Ace and hopefully try and check-raise me on the turn.

Buckmulligan
03-24-2005, 03:24 PM
Raise the turn.

Aaron W.
03-24-2005, 03:33 PM
At least TWELVE KK posts with an ace on the flop in the last month (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&amp;Number=1996817&amp;page=0&amp;view=c ollapsed&amp;sb=5&amp;o=14&amp;fpart=1#Post1997318).

kapw7
03-24-2005, 03:42 PM
But this one is different. 2 As on flop. So it's a bit easier to play (?)

@bsolute_luck
03-24-2005, 04:11 PM
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At least TWELVE KK posts with an ace on the flop in the last month (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&amp;Number=1996817&amp;page=0&amp;view=c ollapsed&amp;sb=5&amp;o=14&amp;fpart=1#Post1997318).

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