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lucas9000

03-14-2005, 06:47 PM

i suck balls at chess and yet i still can't stop watching this. (http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1008419)

JaBlue

03-14-2005, 06:50 PM

that game is overrated. Give me a couple minutes to find some better ones.

slickpoppa

03-14-2005, 06:56 PM

Also check out this one: link (http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1008361)

It was known as the game of the century when it happened. And Fischer was only 13 at the time.

Duke

03-14-2005, 06:56 PM

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that game is overrated. Give me a couple minutes to find some better ones.

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Some of the really brilliant games take a lot of knowledge to appreciate, though.

~D

lucas9000

03-14-2005, 07:03 PM

JaBlue

03-14-2005, 07:07 PM

Here are my favorites:

Kasparov - Topalov, Wijk Ann Zee 1999 (http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1011478)
Adams - Kasparov Linares 2005 (IMO best game played at Linares this year) (http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1333302)
Vygodchikov - Alekhine, 1909 famous rook sacrafice by alekhine (http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1011786)
Fischer - Tal, 1959 (http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1044001)
Tal - Larsen 1965 (http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1139729) Samisch - Nimzowitsch 1923 - IMO best game from Nimzowitsch's My System (http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1102400)

JaBlue

03-14-2005, 07:10 PM

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that game is overrated. Give me a couple minutes to find some better ones.

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Some of the really brilliant games take a lot of knowledge to appreciate, though.

~D

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That's what makes them brilliant... /images/graemlins/smile.gif

housenuts

03-14-2005, 07:12 PM

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i suck balls at chess and yet i still can't stop watching this. (http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1008419)

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i'm confused. how does this game end on move 21? white isn't even in check. did he give?

Dead

03-14-2005, 07:13 PM

I assume so.

Dynasty

03-14-2005, 07:15 PM

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i suck balls at chess and yet i still can't stop watching this. (http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1008419)

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i'm confused. how does this game end on move 21? white isn't even in check. did he give?

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At the Grandmaster level, players will resign (quit) when it is plainly obvious that they will be beaten shortly. It is extremely rare that a GM vs. GM game ends with a checkmate.

JaBlue

03-14-2005, 07:16 PM

Strong chess games generally end in resignation and not mate (even at the club level).

asofel

03-14-2005, 07:17 PM

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i suck balls at chess and yet i still can't stop watching this. (http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1008419)

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i'm confused. how does this game end on move 21? white isn't even in check. did he give?

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22. Qf2 Qh3+
23. Kg1 Re1+!!
24. Rxe1 Bxd4

Chess is nice.....I love play chess....

/just doesn't have the same ring, does it...

Duke

03-14-2005, 07:22 PM

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that game is overrated. Give me a couple minutes to find some better ones.

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Some of the really brilliant games take a lot of knowledge to appreciate, though.

~D

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That's what makes them brilliant... /images/graemlins/smile.gif

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Yeah, but anyone can watch a queen sacrifice and then a resignation shortly and say: "Oh [censored] that's amazing!"

~D

JaBlue

03-14-2005, 07:25 PM

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that game is overrated. Give me a couple minutes to find some better ones.

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Some of the really brilliant games take a lot of knowledge to appreciate, though.

~D

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That's what makes them brilliant... /images/graemlins/smile.gif

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Yeah, but anyone can watch a queen sacrifice and then a resignation shortly and say: "Oh [censored] that's amazing!"

~D

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Fair enough. Then I hope the ones able to appreciate the games I listed do /images/graemlins/smile.gif.

TimM

03-14-2005, 07:25 PM

Heh, I have 16 games in there. None are very good though I don't think.

Duke

03-14-2005, 07:27 PM

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Also check out this one: link (http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1008361)

It was known as the game of the century when it happened. And Fischer was only 13 at the time.

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For those wondering about the other resignation, and then this game played through 'til checkmate, I believe it was because Fischer was indeed 13, and beating a GM (or whatever rank Byrne held) was a big deal. I picture Byrne smiling as he plays it out through the end knowing how good the kid must feel to beat some sort of a master.

~D

housenuts

03-14-2005, 07:28 PM

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i suck balls at chess and yet i still can't stop watching this. (http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1008419)

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i'm confused. how does this game end on move 21? white isn't even in check. did he give?

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22. Qf2 Qh3+
23. Kg1 Re1+!!
24. Rxe1 Bxd4

Chess is nice.....I love play chess....

/just doesn't have the same ring, does it...

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so did byrnes realize this would happen and forfeit the match at 21?

JaBlue

03-14-2005, 07:30 PM

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i suck balls at chess and yet i still can't stop watching this. (http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1008419)

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i'm confused. how does this game end on move 21? white isn't even in check. did he give?

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22. Qf2 Qh3+
23. Kg1 Re1+!!
24. Rxe1 Bxd4

Chess is nice.....I love play chess....

/just doesn't have the same ring, does it...

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so did byrnes realize this would happen and forfeit the match at 21?

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yes

mostsmooth

03-14-2005, 07:31 PM

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Here are my favorites:

Kasparov - Topalov, Wijk Ann Zee 1999 (http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1011478)
Adams - Kasparov Linares 2005 (IMO best game played at Linares this year) (http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1333302)
Vygodchikov - Alekhine, 1909 famous rook sacrafice by alekhine (http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1011786)
Fischer - Tal, 1959 (http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1044001)
Tal - Larsen 1965 (http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1139729) Samisch - Nimzowitsch 1923 - IMO best game from Nimzowitsch's My System (http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1102400)

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my two favorites:
evergreen (http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1018961)
immortal (http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1018910)

housenuts

03-14-2005, 07:31 PM

how long would one of these games have taken them to play?

Duke

03-14-2005, 07:35 PM

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Heh, I have 16 games in there. None are very good though I don't think.

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Nice.

I wonder who on 2+2 has the most games in there? I know of 17 from an infrequent poster.

The fake Gata Kamsky guy will not count.

~D

mostsmooth

03-14-2005, 07:36 PM

and this is pretty sweet too
opera (http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1233404)

wacki

03-14-2005, 07:36 PM

Man I used to play a lot of chess before I got burnt out on it. I was even ranked very high in the state level in highschool, but those games are waaayyyy over my head.

JaBlue

03-14-2005, 07:37 PM

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and this is pretty sweet too
opera (http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1233404)

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This is the first game that made an impression on me as a youngster. I can still repeat it today /images/graemlins/smile.gif.

Duke

03-14-2005, 07:38 PM

TimM

03-14-2005, 07:42 PM

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I wonder who on 2+2 has the most games in there? I know of 17 from an infrequent poster.

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Curtains has 82.

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The fake Gata Kamsky guy will not count.

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Agreed. A certain grandmaster offered me a compelling proof that this is not the real Gata Kamsky. He said "Gata Kamsky is still alive, therefore, he can not be playing poker. If he were, his father would have killed him already."

JaBlue

03-14-2005, 07:45 PM

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I wonder who on 2+2 has the most games in there? I know of 17 from an infrequent poster.

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Curtains has 82.

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The fake Gata Kamsky guy will not count.

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Agreed. A certain grandmaster offered me a compelling proof that this is not the real Gata Kamsky. He said "Gata Kamsky is still alive, therefore, he can not be playing poker. If he were, his father would have killed him already."

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What is Curtains name and what is yours? I'm curious to see these game /images/graemlins/smile.gif. If you don't want to reveal, that's fine. I found out I have no games there. Oh well.

TimM

03-15-2005, 11:46 PM

I'll be playing in the Foxwoods Open (http://www.chesstour.com/fox05.htm) chess tournament March 25-27 if anyone will be around and would like to see a live chess tournament with hundreds of players.

I reserved my room intending to play poker while some friends played chess, but my Easter plans fell through. I figured, what the hell, I play way too much poker anyway, and now that I don't have to miss the last two rounds I might as well play some chess instead.

mmbt0ne

03-16-2005, 12:10 AM

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and this is pretty sweet too
opera (http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1233404)

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This is the first game that made an impression on me as a youngster. I can still repeat it today /images/graemlins/smile.gif.

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I just watched this game, and can honestly say that I went "Whoa!!" when Morphy checkmated him.

ilya

03-16-2005, 12:44 AM

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that game is overrated. Give me a couple minutes to find some better ones.

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Yeah I dunno about that game. Byrne seems to make some blunders.

EliteNinja

03-16-2005, 04:35 AM

I think I'll stick to poker.
My lifetime record for Chess: 0-5

DemonDeac

03-16-2005, 04:55 AM

maybe im an idiot, but i dont see the checkmate. white's king can just move to the right, cant it?

jdl22

03-16-2005, 06:45 AM

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Kasparov - Topalov, Wijk Ann Zee 1999

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I don't know much of anything about chess beyond the the rules, why did black quit there? White seems to be in a good position, but I don't forsee a quick ending.

MicroBob

03-16-2005, 07:17 AM

Curtains is Greg Shahade.
He is a VERY good player. I ws familiar with his talents (as well as his sister Jennifer Shahade) from Chess Life magazine long before I ever played poker or came to 2+2.

I don't know Tim's name.

This game of the century was probably in the 2 hour range (since it was only 21 moves) I'm guessing. Maybe longer since time-controls were probably slightly longer at the US Champinship in 1963. Not sure though.

It is a VERY famous game partly because it's pretty darn good and partly because Fischer was only 13.

I am a chess fan also...although my play completely sucks.
USCF-1400 rated (which Tim and others can tell you means I really do suck and I'm not just being humble).
I've played in a couple of decently large weekend tournaments before. But none of the major ones.

Obviously I make money playing poker....chess, while enjoyable, is not going to be profitable for me so that is a fun hobby while poker is an occupation.
If I am able to stabalize my poker income (thus having more time for hobbies) I will definitely be looking to get back into chess tournaments for fun.

I've heard about how draining big poker tournaments can be...and I know there are some REAL long hours in there. But, to me, there's nothing like the mental drain of studying a position for 30-45 minutes for a SINGLE MOVE trying to scramble out of a tough position or just trying to gain a small advantage in a relatively closed and balanced position....or a wide-open and crazy one...whatever.

MicroBob

03-16-2005, 07:24 AM

I would be especially interested in getting back into chess tourneys since some of the bigger ones take place at Foxwoods (as Tim mentioned) as well as Las Vegas and Reno.

Turn it into a 2 or 3 week trip with chess in one half and maybe a poker tourney in the other half.
By the end of it I suspect my head would explode.

I checked and I officially have ZERO games in the database. I wasn't expecting any though.
I played a game 15 years ago against some 2200 rated player that made it into the Cincinnati Chess magazine or whatever the hell it was called. It was actually a really interesting game but I don't know where my copy is.

Since I had fallen out of chess a bit since taking up poker I was unfamiliar with the chessgames.com database of games. What an awesome resource! Thanks for posting the link.