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bookie socks
03-14-2005, 03:13 PM
I use that info to benefit me?

StacysMom
03-14-2005, 03:23 PM
umm..those are your "reads." beyond that i dont know what i could possibly tell u to help ur poker game. I hope u are kidding

kross
03-14-2005, 06:52 PM
The Psychology of Poker tells you how to adjust your play based on the different player types.

Baulucky
03-14-2005, 07:03 PM
Raise!

AncientPC
03-14-2005, 07:05 PM
Yes.

bookie socks
03-15-2005, 12:03 AM
Anyone else with some input that's not sarcastic?

Greg J
03-15-2005, 12:07 AM
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Anyone else with some input that's not sarcastic?

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Probably not, but what the hell I'll give it a shot. Just play a lot and get experience.

Reef
03-15-2005, 12:22 AM
be willing to throw away TT when rock symbol raises utg and it gets folded to you on the button. 3-bet maniac symbol.

When mouse raises you on the turn, you better have close to the nuts to even think about continuing.

etc..

DeuceKicker
03-15-2005, 12:22 AM
I'm assuming you know what the icons mean, right?

For example, a rock is someone who plays very few hands (the best hands) and will not raise without the nuts. So if this person enters the pot you should give them credit for a good hand and be more selective about what you play. If they raise in front of you, assume they have a very very good hand. Where you might call or raise with AJ normally, you should chuck it against a rock's raise.

On the other hand, if a person is a maniac you know that their requirements to bet or rasie are much lower. If this person raises in front of you, you should consider raising with AJ to isolate them, since there's a very good chance you have them beat.

KaiShin
03-15-2005, 02:03 AM
1. Buy Pokertracker.
2. ???
3. Profit!

OK, seriously though, your read on a player won't matter that much in terms of overall game. Most tables will have a mix of players, so even though one guy on the table is a rock, ramping up your aggression all the time at that table is not going to win you more money. The key is position, and isolation. Then you can make use of your reads.

In terms of position, this is what you should consider before you even sit down at the table. Is it better to have LAGs on your left or right? What about TAGs? Rocks? Check out bisonbison's Evaluating Sites/Levels/Games and Tables thread (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=smallholdem&Number=1567311 &Forum=All_Forums&Words=relative%20position&Search page=0&Limit=25&Main=1567311&Search=true&where=bod ysub&Name=5524&daterange=1&newerval=1&newertype=y& olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post1567311) for better info on this concept of relative position. Both absolute and relative position are very important when it comes to taking advantage of your reads.

Now, once you have position, its time for the second part, which is isolation. Your reads on one player aren't as effective if there's other people in the hand. You need to isolate the player you have a good read on, so you can take advantage of your knowledge. This is where you can make significant changes to your game based on reads, ie. calling with more marginal hands if he's a maniac, or folding more marginal hands if he's a rock.

Above all, make sure you don't trust your reads too much, whether they be from Pokertracker or direct observation. Correct play is still correct play, and that won't change no matter what type of player you are up against.

68Mustang
03-15-2005, 02:05 AM
That should be a ton of info in itself. If you need to ask......

IggyWH
03-15-2005, 02:09 AM
It's sad that I had poker tracker for many months before I started using it to get reads on my opponents. Thank God PV changed all that.

I hate when someone acts completely out of character though. I was playing $50NL on party and a rock UTG raised $6. Everyone folded and he showed 32o. I still can't figure out what he was trying to pull with that...

AncientPC
03-15-2005, 02:40 AM
He got bored and was trying to get more action on his legit hands.

However anyone with half a brain wouldn't fall for it.

gorgeous
03-15-2005, 02:44 AM
http://www.bet-the-pot.com/poker-tracker-part-one-page31.html. Go through all of the parts

bookie socks
03-15-2005, 08:45 AM
Y'all are great. Thx for the good info, especially from KaiShin.

bookie socks
03-15-2005, 08:52 AM
That's where I got stuck. It helped me with understanding PT and the values to enter but I guess I didn't understand how to play against those rocks and maniacs and such. In the past I just would make a mental note of someones play or a note in the note taker and play against them that way but I guess I really didn't classify them. Or know how to stand my ground against them because I was going on a few hands played. Then before I new it they were busted out and I would have to focus on someone else, but PT will watch everybody for me. Anyway thx again.