NY Times article about a Princeton player...

[VBM]

anyone we know? scrub? wayfare?

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/14/education/14gamble.html?ex=1111467600&en=9812f93fac3399d5&ei =5070

[bunky9590]

Its not scrub, its not wayfare.

I have Vik on my AIM though. /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

It sounds a lot like GA (though I'll bet its not him). But there may be more like him. The princeton crew will probably know exactly who it is.

[canis582]

That article reads like an evil of drinking or drugs piece.

"Gambling is a game of chance," Mr. Whyte said. "Some people can make a living doing it, but even in the long run, most people regress to the mean and wind up with zero or close to it."

"It's the TV programs that are driving it," said Elizabeth George, chief executive of the North American Training Institute, a nonprofit organization in Duluth, Minn., that specializes in the problems of pathological and underage gambling. "Young people particularly are drawn to it. There are superstars, then there's advertising, plus the Internet. So with all of those elements, put that into a bag and shake it up and what you have is a remarkably dangerous situation."

There is a reason her insitute is 'non-profit'

[scrub]

He's a very talented player from my old campus game. Weird to have his face pop onto my computer first thing this morning, though...

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anyone we know? scrub? wayfare?

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/14/education/14gamble.html?ex=1111467600&en=9812f93fac3399d5&ei =5070

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Also, he posts on here occasionally.

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[Greg J]

Interesting last paragraph to that article:

"Gambling is a game of chance," Mr. Whyte said. "Some people can make a living doing it, but even in the long run, most people regress to the mean and wind up with zero or close to it."

[Aceshigh7]

Good article. The guy sounds smart and he's doing really well.

[umdpoker]

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Last year, Elliott Dorsch of Tampa, Fla., another Princeton senior, made $11,000 in two hours playing online blackjack, only to lose most of it in 15 minutes, he said.

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haha. even some princeton students are morons.

[canis582]

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Last year, Elliott Dorsch of Tampa, Fla., another Princeton senior, made $11,000 in two hours playing online blackjack, only to lose most of it in 15 minutes, he said.

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haha. even some princeton students are morons.

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Not only is he a moron for losing 11k, but he was probobly playing BJ on rigged software.

[ThePimpulator]

Even if it was not rigged, wtf is he doing playing online blackjack where the deck is shuffled before every deal?

[jpym84]

I think I remember hearing that story before, and it sounds like he was just drunk. Still it'd take alot of booze to get me to play rigged online blackjack.

[JohnnyHumongous]

Was this dude playing NL? Or just logging monster hours at 15-30? $90K in 5 months is a significant chunk of change.

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He ... can innately calculate the odds of drawing pocket aces (two, face down), while casually sizing up his online opponents and divining what cards they may hold.

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If I could do that I'd make a billion dollars too!!!!!!!!!

[JohnnyHumongous]

Talk to me baby...

Also what games would he be playing in AC to make that bread?

[Dave Mac]

90 in 5 mounths in the 15 is really not that much, and AC has a 40 and 80 game going every weekend.
dave

[Dave Mac]

I think he used to play in a game i played in in VA.
dave

[JohnnyHumongous]

Are those AC 40 and 80 games soft on the weekends? That's what I've heard...

Man I gotta get into the Party 15 game one of these days. I'm getting complacent making 2.7BB at 10-20 6-max... It's comfortable and for the first time in my poker life I feel nervous about moving up... I think it's because I've spent 6 months at 6-max and I feel I would get my ass handed to me. I wouldn't even know what to play preflop...

[scrub]

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Are those AC 40 and 80 games soft on the weekends? That's what I've heard...


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The AC 20 and 40 games are good all week.

If the 80 is running at the Borgata, that's usually a sign that it's good.

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90 in 5 mounths in the 15 is really not that much, and AC has a 40 and 80 game going every weekend.
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Mike usually plays NL in AC--at least that's what he was playing the last time I took a trip back.

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[Dave D]

I just love how the article quotes him as saying "I was definatly really drunk" or something liek that.

[stinkypete]

120k in a year and he cant afford a decent laptop?

[AviD]

Mmmmm Avril...

[bigmiiiiike]

The article definitely tried to put poker in a negative context. I was happy they were going to feature me, but it's not exactly something I want my parents, who pay for my education, to see. The quotes they used were straight out of a stand up comedy routine, I swear I'm not as smug as they make me seem, and I'm not nearly as unconcerned with school as it made me seem.

I play mostly 15 30 on party, occasionally some 200 sitngos, and now some 600 or 1000 nl/pl. In AC i play 10 25 nl on the weekends, or 2 5, 5 10, or whatever they have going at the Borgata.

[JohnnyHumongous]

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The article definitely tried to put poker in a negative context. I was happy they were going to feature me, but it's not exactly something I want my parents, who pay for my education, to see. The quotes they used were straight out of a stand up comedy routine, I swear I'm not as smug as they make me seem, and I'm not nearly as unconcerned with school as it made me seem.

I play mostly 15 30 on party, occasionally some 200 sitngos, and now some 600 or 1000 nl/pl. In AC i play 10 25 nl on the weekends, or 2 5, 5 10, or whatever they have going at the Borgata.

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Congratulations on the article dude.

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The article definitely tried to put poker in a negative context. I was happy they were going to feature me, but it's not exactly something I want my parents, who pay for my education, to see

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Or every Princeton alumnus--you showed up on a bunch of alumni email lists today.

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[KeysrSoze]

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He ... can innately calculate the odds of drawing pocket aces (two, face down), while casually sizing up his online opponents and divining what cards they may hold.

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If I could do that I'd make a billion dollars too!!!!!!!!!

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Hey, I can innately calculate the odds of drawing pocket aces (well, innately remember at least), why ain't I making at least half a billion dollars?

[obsidian]

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That article reads like an evil of drinking or drugs piece.

"Gambling is a game of chance," Mr. Whyte said. "Some people can make a living doing it, but even in the long run, most people regress to the mean and wind up with zero or close to it."

"It's the TV programs that are driving it," said Elizabeth George, chief executive of the North American Training Institute, a nonprofit organization in Duluth, Minn., that specializes in the problems of pathological and underage gambling. "Young people particularly are drawn to it. There are superstars, then there's advertising, plus the Internet. So with all of those elements, put that into a bag and shake it up and what you have is a remarkably dangerous situation."

There is a reason her insitute is 'non-profit'

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The problem with her first quote is he is talking about two totally different sets of people like they are the same. There are those who make their living off poker and those who break even. The people who make their living off poker most certainly are not breaking even in the long run.

The second statement is sort of a scare tactic but really isn't too far off the truth. Gambling + college IS a dangerous situation. Yes, in poker you don't have huge odds stacked against you like in most casino games. However, assuming you are a winner, there is someone else losing it to you. Not everyone has the ability to read other players nor will many try understand the more technical part of the game. How often have you seen people with A7o betting like they have the nuts when an A hits the board?