NCAA Tourney First Round Betting Lines

[Clarkmeister]

613 Oakland -7 -106 OVER 130 -105
614 Alabama A&M +7 -104 UNDER 130 -105

NCAA Basketball Thu 3/17
Game Spread Money Line Total Points More
707 Tennessee Chat +18.5 -105 OVER 156 -105
708 Wake Forest -18.5 -105 UNDER 156 -105

709 Creighton +3 -105 OVER 134 -105
710 West Virginia -3 -105 UNDER 134 -105

711 Wisc Milwaukee +5 -105 OVER 140.5 -105
712 Alabama -5 -105 UNDER 140.5 -105

713 Pennsylvania +6.5 -103 OVER 128 -105
714 Boston College -6.5 -107 UNDER 128 -105

715 Fair Dickinson +26 -105 OVER 140 -109
716 Illinois -26 -105 UNDER 140 -101

717 Nevada +1.5 -105 OVER 132.5 -105
718 Texas -1.5 -105 UNDER 132.5 -105

719 Eastern Kentucky +17 -108 OVER 135 -105
720 Kentucky -17 -102 UNDER 135 -105

721 Iowa +2.5 -108 OVER 137.5 -105
722 Cincinnati -2.5 -102 UNDER 137.5 -105

723 Montana +20 -105 OVER 157.5 -105
724 Washington U -20 -105 UNDER 157.5 -105

725 Pittsburgh -3.5 -105 OVER 130 -105
726 Pacific +3.5 -105 UNDER 130 -105

727 UAB +4 -105 OVER 152.5 -105
728 LSU -4 -105 UNDER 152.5 -105

729 Utah State +7 -105 OVER 139 -105
730 Arizona -7 -105 UNDER 139 -105

731 UTEP +2.5 -105 OVER 131 -105
732 Utah U -2.5 -105 UNDER 131 -105

733 Niagara +13.5 -101 OVER 153 -105
734 Oklahoma -13.5 -109 UNDER 153 -105

735 UCLA +3.5 -105 OVER 146.5 -105
736 Texas Tech -3.5 -105 UNDER 146.5 -105

737 Winthrop +12.5 -101 OVER 140.5 -105
738 Gonzaga -12.5 -109 UNDER 140.5 -105

NCAA Basketball Fri 3/18
Game Spread Money Line Total Points More
827 Central Florida +18.5 -105 OVER 135.5 -105
828 Connecticut -18.5 -105 UNDER 135.5 -105

829 NC State -4.5 -108 OVER 146.5 -101
830 NC Charlotte +4.5 -102 UNDER 146.5 -109

831 Old Dominion +8.5 -102 OVER 135.5 -105
832 Michigan State -8.5 -108 UNDER 135.5 -105

833 Vermont +10 -102 OVER 139 -105
834 Syracuse -10 -108 UNDER 139 -105

837 Iowa State pk -102 OVER 126.5 -105
838 Minnesota U pk -108 UNDER 126.5 -105

839 Delaware State +26 -101 OVER 134.5 -105
840 Duke -26 -109 UNDER 134.5 -105

841 Mississippi State pk -101 OVER 135.5 -105
842 Stanford pk -109 UNDER 135.5 -105

843 Geo Washington +5 -104 OVER 148.5 -101
844 Georgia Tech -5 -106 UNDER 148.5 -109

845 UL Lafayette +10.5 -102 OVER 146.5 -105
846 Louisville -10.5 -108 UNDER 146.5 -105

847 New Mexico +4 +101 OVER 144.5 -105
848 Villanova -4 -111 UNDER 144.5 -105

849 Ohio +10 -101 OVER 137 -105
850 Florida -10 -109 UNDER 137 -105

851 SE Louisiana +19 -101 OVER 126 -105
852 Oklahoma State -19 -109 UNDER 126 -105

853 Saint Mary's Ca +1 -105 OVER 126.5 -105
854 So Illinois -1 -105 UNDER 126.5 -105

855 Northern Iowa +7.5 -101 OVER 127.5 -105
856 Wisconsin -7.5 -109 UNDER 127.5 -105

857 Bucknell +14.5 -101 OVER 128.5 -105
858 Kansas -14.5 -109 UNDER 128.5 -105

[MarkL444]

the sports betting forum gets no love.

[Clarkmeister]

I posted it there too, before you posted this. So there. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Dead]

833 Vermont +10 -102 OVER 139 -105
834 Syracuse -10 -108 UNDER 139 -105

So what does this mean exactly? I have no clue about sports betting.

[MarkL444]

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I posted it there too, before you posted this. So there. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

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ahh, but still...you came to OOT first.

[Clarkmeister]

Games that jump out at me:

Nevada +1.5 vs. Texas
Iowa +2.5 vs Cinci
Iowa State pick vs. Minnesota
St. Mary +1 vs So. Illinois (I love this one)
Northern Iowa +7.5 vs Wisconsin

[Clarkmeister]

I'm surprised that there's something you don't already know everything about. /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[Dead]

You know, Clarkmeister, I've never claimed to be an authority on everything in the world. I've claimed on here that I know little about poker.

If you can point me to a post where I claimed that I knew a lot about everything then, please, do so. You won't find one.

But thanks for being a pal and explaining the lines to me. /images/graemlins/smirk.gif /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

-Dead

[Clarkmeister]

I'd offer you the google solution, but I was already trying to pull up an old post where I explained lines. Patience.

[IggyWH]

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713 Pennsylvania +6.5 -103 OVER 128 -105
714 Boston College -6.5 -107 UNDER 128 -105

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I like the line of that game. I know BC hasn't played well lately, but 6.5 should be nothing to cover against Penn.

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847 New Mexico +4 +101 OVER 144.5 -105
848 Villanova -4 -111 UNDER 144.5 -105

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Just to convince people I'm not completely a Big East homer... I like New Mexico getting 4. I don't think Nova really is all that good. That Granger from NM is a BEAST and I don't think Nova has anyone who can stop him. When he plays, they're 26-3 with one of those losses to Utah and another to Wake.

[Dead]

Okie dokie Clarkmeister.

[Clarkmeister]

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A number with a "+" means that you bet $100 and you profit that much if you win. Example: I bet $100 on the Democrats at +160. If they win, I would collect $260, my $100 bet and $160 profit.

A number with a "-" means you must bet that much to win $100. Example, you bet $180 on the Republicans at -180. If they win, you collect $280, your initial $180 bet and $100 profit.

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Now use that plus the points. So St. Marys is +1 point at -105. Meaning I'd bet $105 to win $100 profit and I get 1 point. The other big number, generally in the 120-150 range is the "over/under" which is for total points scored in the game by both teams combined.

[Dead]

So when you place a bet you either bet on the +- number OR the over under?

I could bet 100 on Syracuse to win 8 bucks? Just want to make sure that I have this right.

[Clarkmeister]

No. Here's a example:

833 Vermont +10 -102 OVER 139 -105
834 Syracuse -10 -108 UNDER 139 -105

You can take Syracuse -10 points. You win $100 for every $108 you bet. So if Syracuse wins that game by 12 ponts, you will collect $208, your initial $108 and your $100 profit.

If you think it'll be a low scoring game, you'd bet "under" 139 total points scored and bet $105 for profit of $100.

[Dead]

I think I see now


So doesn't it make sense to bet on the Syracuse game, even though I'm only getting $100 for every $108 I put in? I don't think Syracuse will have a problem beating Vermont by 12.

I mean I don't know if Duke will win their game by 26 but I think that SU can beat Vermont by 10.

Thanks,
Dead

[IggyWH]

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Gotcha.

So doesn't it make sense to bet on the Syracuse game, even though I'm only getting $100 for every $108 I put in? I don't think Syracuse will have a problem beating Vermont by 12.

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It always makes sense to place the bet if you're confident. Now do I think Syracuse will cover by 12 is a completely different question...

[Dead]

Why not, out of curiosity?

I know that Vermont's Coppenrath is good but he's like their only star.

Sorrentine is good as well, but look at the rest of the team. Other than Coppenrath and Sorrentine, no one else scores more than 6 points a game for them.

And does this mean that SU has to beat Vermont by more than 10 for me to win? Or is 10 good enough?

[IggyWH]

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Why not, out of curiosity?

I know that Vermont's Coppenrath is good but he's like their only star.

Sorrentine is good as well, but look at the rest of the team. Other than Coppenrath and Sorrentine, no one else scores more than 6 points a game for them.

And does this mean that SU has to beat Vermont by more than 10 for me to win? Or is 10 good enough?

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To answer the second part first, Syracuse would have to win by more than 12 points for you to win.

As far as taking that line, I'm not saying it's right or wrong. I EXTREMELY hate giving that many points though.

I don't know much about Vermont, but let me make some general statements about Syracuse. Warrick is good, so I'll assume Vermont doesn't have anyone that can shut him down. Same goes with Jerry Mac.

Syracuse is a 2 man show though. Syrcause will win the game, but if Warrick, or even more importantly Mac is off, giving 12 points is a lot.

I like to stick with lines of around 6. I have confidence the team will win and win by a lot more than 6, but if for some reason someone has an ass game, the team I'm taking can still cover the points I'm giving.

Syracuse giving 12 points could be hard to cover if Mac or Warrick are off.

[Dead]

I understand the second part now. So how about Villanova? I think that they could very well beat New Mexico by at least 4.

But I still don't understand the first part. Why would Syracuse have to win by 12 for me to get paid if they're at -10?

Thanks,
Dead

[Clarkmeister]

You are right, the line is 10. I mentioned 12 as a hypothetical winning bet to explain the lines, that's all.

[Dead]

Well Syracuse winning by 10 seems pretty good.


But I think the Villanova winning by 4 line might be just as good.

What sites can I bet on these at, Clark?

TYVM,
Dead

[Clarkmeister]

www.pinnaclesports.com (http://www.pinnaclesports.com)

[Dead]

Thanks.

[IggyWH]

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I understand the second part now. So how about Villanova? I think that they could very well beat New Mexico by at least 4.

But I still don't understand the first part. Why would Syracuse have to win by 12 for me to get paid if they're at -10?

Thanks,
Dead

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Sorry, got confused with Clark's example.

As for Nova, if you read my post in this thread, I already said I like New Mexico a lot so I'm not the one to talk to about Nova if you want support /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[Dead]

Yah but you know me buddy. I'm Big East all the way baby!

That said, ND should have gotten in. They beat Indiana and others as well. They also had a +.500 record in the Big East.

Big East should have gotten 7 in. And it's only gonna get better next year when although we lose Boston College, we gain Louisville AND Cincy, among others.

And Washington does deserve a #1 seed. They had some quality wins earlier in the season against Oklahoma and Utah, and they beat Arizona 2 out of 3.

[Zeno]

Where is the villanova/New Mexico game?

Bet $1000 on New Mexico - it's a lock.

-Zeno

[IggyWH]

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Where is the villanova/New Mexico game?

Bet $1000 on New Mexico - it's a lock.

-Zeno

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Nashville

[Michael Davis]

You need to not bet on these games. Having a fan's preference for a particular conference or team and betting without shaking off your emotions is bad news.

-Michael

[Dead]

I guess I disagree Michael

I know nothing about Sports betting and I wouldn't dream about making a 2nd round bet or later, but I do think that SU has a really good chance of beating Vermont by 10.

[Zeno]

Thanks - I just printed out a bracket so I won't have to keep asking rudimentary questions.

Brackets available from ESPN, and I assume from other sports web sites.

-Zeno

[Dead]

Yahoo has nice interactive ones.

[Zeno]

Villanova cheerleaders - Corny (http://www.athletics.villanova.edu/cheerleading/P8050012.JPG)

Obviously, their team deserves to lose.

-Zeno

[Michael Davis]

What exactly are Vermont's key weaknesses?

What areas of Syracuse's game might they be able to exploit?

-Michael

[CCass]

Clark, this is definitely a biased opinion, but I like TTU -3.5. Knight has the Red Raiders playing well right now, they might make it to the round of 16.

[pshreck]

Speaking of Knight, what was with his interview tonight on ESPN? Was he actually pissed at the one guy, or are they just kidding around.

Was he for real when he started advertising DirectTV? Was that a joke? That whole interview was just crazy.

[Dead]

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What exactly are Vermont's key weaknesses?

What areas of Syracuse's game might they be able to exploit?

-Michael

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Michael, Vermont's weaknesses are that they only have two guys who score more than 6 points per game. One scores 25 and one scores 17 per game. Then they get about 6 points out of the 3 others. They also have poor perimeter shooting and that is the one way that the strong SU zone can be penetrated. They only have one legitimate 3 point threat and that's Sorrentine.

SU only has one real 3 point threat as well but that is fine because we have 3 or 4 guys that can do damage in the paint. Vermont doesn't.

I don't really see any weaknesses that Vermont can exploit.

To penetrate our zone you must have good long range threats. Vermont only has one and Vermont has never seen our defense before.

This is why I think that SU will beat Vermont by more than 10. Hope this helps.

-Dead

[B00T]

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but I do think that SU has a really good chance of beating Vermont by 10.


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I think they have a good chance too. About 50%.

[Sponger15SB]

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but I do think that SU has a really good chance of beating Vermont by 10.


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I think they have a good chance too. About 50%.

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Is it just me, or does it seem like whenever someone new to sports betting looks at lines he automatically thinks "wow <X team> is gonna beat <Y team> by more than <the spread>!"

They don't consider anything else, they just pick one good team and think that they will crush another one.

Not that this is happening quite so much in this case cause Dead at least knows what he is talking about when he discusses sports teams.

[IggyWH]

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This is why I think that SU will beat Vermont by more than 10. Hope this helps.

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Sorry, had to bump this sucker /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Of course I can't talk much since my squad shyt the bed. I guess that loss to Bucknell isn't looking so bad after all?