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Dead
03-13-2005, 03:47 PM
Villain is LP-P

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (7 SB) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP3 folds, CO folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds.

Turn: (4.50 BB) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, Hero ?
jaxUp
03-13-2005, 03:58 PM
I think you can probably shut 'er down here.
Dead
03-13-2005, 04:00 PM
I assume you mean fold?

-Dead


I thought so too looking at the hand afterwards against an LP-P. Against a LAG it would probably be correct to call it down I think.
KaiShin
03-13-2005, 04:01 PM
The pot's pretty small. If your read is solid I'd fold it.
Dead
03-13-2005, 04:05 PM
What do you do if Villain bets the turn instead of check-raising?
IPSC
03-13-2005, 04:10 PM
Disclaimer: I am not a good player.

I would say fold. Your only getting 8.5 - 1 to call to two outs if he has a Q. Even if he has Ace rag any river card bigger than your 8 kicker results in a split pot.

I also considered reraise and fold to a cap or a river bet by the villian. I usually don't see LP-P attempt a checkraise. I would think they would just bet it out. Maybe villian is taking a shot at you?
jaxUp
03-13-2005, 04:13 PM
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What do you do if Villain bets the turn instead of check-raising?

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I get pissed off.

seriously, I have no idea.
KaiShin
03-13-2005, 04:14 PM
Interesting question. If he's really passive I'd dump it. Your read would have to be very solid though, like you've seen him check-call down with two pair or TPTK. Any hint of aggression in his game and I'd raise him, call it down.

Calling is definitely the worst option.
@bsolute_luck
03-13-2005, 04:24 PM
wow! i never see that play at .25/.5 i would be confused too. i'd probably fold to the c/r. they feared the A on the flop and assumed you'd bet the turn, and took you for more $$.

if he bet the turn, raise him. calling is definitely the worst.
fold to a reraise.
hate
03-13-2005, 04:36 PM
What's with all of you advocating a reraise or fold? You've got tons of worse hands that'll play here.
LoaferGee12
03-13-2005, 04:37 PM
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wow! i never see that play at .25/.5 i would be confused too. i'd probably fold to the c/r. they feared the A on the flop and assumed you'd bet the turn, and took you for more $$.

if he bet the turn, raise him. calling is definitely the worst.
fold to a reraise.

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If he bets the turn why is calling down here the worst option?
Dead
03-13-2005, 04:41 PM
Against a check-raise hate?
hate
03-13-2005, 04:46 PM
It's been a long time since I've played .25/.5, but from when I played it I'm going to say that the pot's small enough I can drop it there, but I'd put a note about probable bluffing and watch his future play closely. When I played .5/1, it seemed to me a checkraise was a bluff much more often than a trap and I was comfortable 3-betting, but that's awfully LAGgy and I was a pretty shitty player.
Dead
03-13-2005, 09:55 PM
3betting here is insane with just TPMK. Insane.

I like your main line though, including making the note.