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IggyWH
03-13-2005, 02:17 AM
Does anyone ever play these on a consistant basis? I know I've only played them a few times when they were huge, but that 50 cent juice seems to add up quick and I wonder how many people actually make money playing those tables.

hate
03-13-2005, 02:30 AM
The players there are so shitty that even if the jackpot isn't in the +EV range, their terrible play is.

ewile
03-13-2005, 02:35 AM
I think that the 2/4 tables are a huge fishbowl.

maxpower72
03-13-2005, 02:39 AM
FWIW - I believe that in a recent article that I read somewhere (can't remember where) said that +EV starts at $160 000.

Reef
03-13-2005, 06:00 AM
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I think that the 2/4 tables are a huge fishbowl.

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definetaly.. but it's only worth playing 2/4, IMO, when the BBJ is over 250k. I remember paying about $90 extra in rake one night.

bobbyi
03-13-2005, 06:35 AM
I haven't played the BBJP tables. Does Pokertracker correctly count the .50 jackpot drop towards the "rake paid" statistic? Does it differentiate BBJP tables from regular tables (i.e., are 3/6 and jackpot 3/6 listed as separate games)?

Reef
03-13-2005, 06:45 AM
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I haven't played the BBJP tables. Does Pokertracker correctly count the .50 jackpot drop towards the "rake paid" statistic? Does it differentiate BBJP tables from regular tables (i.e., are 3/6 and jackpot 3/6 listed as separate games)?

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I think it does add it to the rake.. b/c my 2/4 average rake is at about $1.02. This includes MANY BBJ hands. I think the average I saw somewhere else was in the 90 something cent avg. I could be wrong. /images/graemlins/confused.gif

joop
03-13-2005, 09:03 AM
Could somebody tell me what Bad Beat Jackpot tables are, please?

IggyWH
03-13-2005, 03:12 PM
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Could somebody tell me what Bad Beat Jackpot tables are, please?

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Different sites have a different definitions. For Party, if you play on a bad beat table and your quad 8's or better loses, then you win the jackpot.

25% of the jackpot at the time goes to the house. At that point, 50% of whats left goes to the loser (the person who got bad beat), 25% to the winner of the hand, and 25% is divided up to the rest of the table that was dealt in.

Party's rules are kind of tough though so the jackpot when hit is usually pretty nice. Both players have to use both their hole cards, 4 players must be dealt into the hand and the pot has to be raked the extra 50 cents for the jackpot for the hand to count.

debater
03-13-2005, 09:15 PM
Just a few corrections on your Party example:

10% goes to the house (not 30%)
20% is used to reseed the bonus

Then of the remaining 70%:

50% goes to the "loser" of the hand
25 goes to the "winner" of the hand
The remaining 25% is split equally between all remaining players (must be a total of at least 4 palyers)

IggyWH
03-13-2005, 09:19 PM
Thanks for the corrections...

Shows you how little attention I pay to those tables. I wondered if anyone played them frequently but it seems like most people treat the BBJ tables like they do the lotto, only play when it's high.

grouchie
03-13-2005, 09:21 PM
If they added NL BBJ tables I'd play.
Hate limit and I'm awful at it.
So playin on the 2/4 even when the BBJ is super huge is very negative EV for me.

o0mr_bill0o
03-13-2005, 10:00 PM
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I think that the 2/4 tables are a huge fishbowl.

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it's not such a huge fishbowl that it's worth playing the BBJ tables over the regular tables. the regular ones are a big enough fishbowl anyway, and the .50 cent rake is enough to leave you down at least 1 BB/100. it'd take some supremely awful play to make up that much.

ttw22
03-13-2005, 10:41 PM
BonusWhores has a list of how much the jackpot must be in order for BBJ tables to be +EV at different limits on their Party review page.

joop
03-14-2005, 12:48 AM
Thanks IggyWH and debater!

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