Beck
03-12-2005, 08:20 PM
Hello
I'm trying to get familiar with the two programs, as I've (finally) realized that there is a huge difference between $EV and cEV (Chip EV - correct abbreviation?).
To figure out how to use it I used the following scenario:
Blind 200/400 (payout ,5/,3/,2)
SB 2000
BB 2000
UTG 2000
Hero 2000
Hero push with K9s, (Win% 39,832)
only BB calls all-ins and that with the following hands:
AA-22, AKs-A2s, AKo-A7o, KQs-K9s, KQo-KTo, QJos, QTs, JTs (Win% 60,168)
But then I have to correct for the actual chance of BB having a calling hand, right? What is the easiest way to do that with a range of hands?
But to get on with my calculations I assume (numbers totally made up), that BB calls 30% of the time.
So that woul dgive me an average chip count of 0,7*2600+0,3*0,39832*4200= 2322 chips correct? With an ICM of 0,2747.
Or should I calculate the ICM for each of the possible situations (BB fold stacks: 1800/1600/2000/2600, BB call/lose 1800/0/2000/4200, BB call/win Hero stack=0) which would be:
0,7*0,2941+0,3*0,39832*0,3902 = 0,252
Think I've been rambling a bit, so it boils down to, should calculate ICM based on average stack after play or a weighted ICM for the various scenarios?
And how do I asses the chance of BB having a calling hand? And what if several possible callers?
I'm trying to get familiar with the two programs, as I've (finally) realized that there is a huge difference between $EV and cEV (Chip EV - correct abbreviation?).
To figure out how to use it I used the following scenario:
Blind 200/400 (payout ,5/,3/,2)
SB 2000
BB 2000
UTG 2000
Hero 2000
Hero push with K9s, (Win% 39,832)
only BB calls all-ins and that with the following hands:
AA-22, AKs-A2s, AKo-A7o, KQs-K9s, KQo-KTo, QJos, QTs, JTs (Win% 60,168)
But then I have to correct for the actual chance of BB having a calling hand, right? What is the easiest way to do that with a range of hands?
But to get on with my calculations I assume (numbers totally made up), that BB calls 30% of the time.
So that woul dgive me an average chip count of 0,7*2600+0,3*0,39832*4200= 2322 chips correct? With an ICM of 0,2747.
Or should I calculate the ICM for each of the possible situations (BB fold stacks: 1800/1600/2000/2600, BB call/lose 1800/0/2000/4200, BB call/win Hero stack=0) which would be:
0,7*0,2941+0,3*0,39832*0,3902 = 0,252
Think I've been rambling a bit, so it boils down to, should calculate ICM based on average stack after play or a weighted ICM for the various scenarios?
And how do I asses the chance of BB having a calling hand? And what if several possible callers?