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EStreet20
03-12-2005, 10:43 AM
Hey guys,
For some reason I'm sick as a dog today (strep throat or something) so I'm trying to convince myself to stay away from the St Patty's day parade. Normally I'd just put in a lot of hands at .5-1 but my money is stuck at Absolute Poker till tommorrow (48 hours) and I'm still waiting for support to respond to my e mail because for some reason I can't connect to their game servers. Anyway, I took a little shot last night by depositing 100 dollars at party and playing 2-4, then I moved up to 3-6 when I doubled it and moved up to 5-10 when I doubled that. One bad beat ( I'll save you the usual whining) and I was done with 5-10 for the day. So today, here's my plan. I cashed out my remaining winnings from last night and started at 2-4 with 100 again. I'm now up to 146 after 46 hands, nice upswing early. I'm going to play until I triple my cash then move up. I'm just trying to get a feel for the games at these levels at party and skins because I've beaten them all regularly in casinos but I know they're tougher online. Any insights, criticism etc more than welcome.
Good luck
--Matt

mrjim
03-12-2005, 11:05 AM
Your risk of ruin at 2-4 with 100 is incredibly high. Good luck, you'll need it.

mack848
03-12-2005, 11:08 AM
So you have to win 50BB in a session of 2/4 before moving up to 3/6. Forgetting variance for a while - a good player would, on average, take about 20-30 table hours to win 50BB.

Allowing for variance, I'd say that most days you would never get to play 3/6 at all. You will lose your 25BB more often.

What's the point of this exercise? Why not play 2/4, see if you are good enough to beat it (over many sessions)and then try 3/6 with a bit of a BR behind you? Good players lose 25BB in a session frequently.

lozen
03-12-2005, 11:08 AM
Hey i was playing 10/20 and 1/2 the players there bought in for around $200. It still mazes me why they would do it. One guy hit a monster of a hand and had no cash to bet river.

PokerMike
03-12-2005, 11:16 AM
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Hey i was playing 10/20 and 1/2 the ATMs there bought in for around $200.

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EStreet20
03-12-2005, 11:22 AM
Hey guys,
I figured that would be the response, as it's the same response I would give. I'm really just treating this like a one table B+M session, where I usually buy in for 25 BB's. I know I can beat 2-4, however I also know that the ROR is definitely there. I'm basically just testing the waters at levels I hope to be playing in the future. Thanks for the input. Keep it coming.

Still stuck on up 40 after 100 hands, some A-hole sucked out and spiked a set to my two pair on a pot that would have put me up a little more than 25 BB's.

Good luck,
Matt

__Q__
03-12-2005, 11:46 AM
I'm so sick of hearing the term "risk of ruin." People are so caugth up with proffessing there knowledge of the 300 or 400 or 500 BB rule, that nobody bothers to realize that in almost all the cases we talk about on these forums, going bust really ain't all that big of a tradgedy.

If you lose a 100 bucks,no big deal, get a job, buy in again.

So I say if you think it would be fun to take a small amout of money and try to sprint up the limits with it, then do it. Enjoy yourself. And good luck.

EStreet20
03-12-2005, 11:51 AM
Thanks Q,
I am a believer in the 300 BB rule but this isn't my bankroll I'm playing with. Maybe I should have explained better in my post but I am a properly rolled multi tabler at .5-1. I play to supplement my measly income and am pretty close to a 1-2 bankroll. As I said, this is just a test of the limits I hope to be moving up to online. It's also a way to keep myself from getting sicker by going to the St. Patrick's day festivities and getting hammered. I see 100 bucks as an easy to swallow amount to lose, especially because I'd be spending more in bars today if I wasn't sick.

Up 52 bucks in 130 hands.

Good luck all,
Matt

Alobar
03-12-2005, 12:23 PM
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I'm so sick of hearing the term "risk of ruin." People are so caugth up with proffessing there knowledge of the 300 or 400 or 500 BB rule, that nobody bothers to realize that in almost all the cases we talk about on these forums, going bust really ain't all that big of a tradgedy.

If you lose a 100 bucks,no big deal, get a job, buy in again.

So I say if you think it would be fun to take a small amout of money and try to sprint up the limits with it, then do it. Enjoy yourself. And good luck.

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excellent post

EStreet20
03-12-2005, 12:26 PM
Taking a break to help out with some stuff around the house and eat.

167 hands at 2-4 up $112
Take care,
Matt

stone_7
03-12-2005, 02:19 PM
I agree that if this is fun for you then it is something you should be doing. I did something similar when I wanted to lear Omaha hi 6 max. I put in $100 in a week it was 450 then it topped out at $600 when I dropped to $400 I called it a day and cashed out. It was a great learning experience, and it was a TON of fun. Good Luck

B Mando
03-12-2005, 02:59 PM
One weekend in the fall when I was hitting every card in the deck everyday I did this same thing. I put 50$ in PS(I usually played on PokerRoom at the time) and started playing 1-2 stud8 until I had enough to move up to the next level. I started at about 1130 in the morning playing two tables and actually...somehow....made it up to 3-6 with 270 bucks. I was getting incredibly lucky, I had visions of sittin down at the 30-60 with a K in no time. So the dinner hour passed and I was started to get wasted. I wasnt really getting anywere and was down to about 210$ so I wandered over to the 10-20 and lost it all in no time at all. It was a really good time...I got EXTREMELY lucky for mostly the entire day. I had basically no experience playing stud8...it was the first(and only time to my knowledge) when a player followed me from 2-4 to 3-6 because he thought I was fishy...hahaha

GL Today...I would just move up everytime I double my money...have fun!

EStreet20
03-12-2005, 06:15 PM
Hit my first mini downswing before, then crashed for bit. Being sick caught up with me, so now I'm awake again and up around 70 bucks. Just finally downloaded/registered PT and set it up. Now I'm going to hea dback and continue running at 2-4, I'll give you some more updates as I go.
Take care,
Matt

__Q__
03-12-2005, 06:51 PM
Hang in there.

EStreet20
03-12-2005, 07:24 PM
Sorry about the title but I'm watching Napoleon Dynamite when I play. Anyway I just hit a nice upswing and I'm heading up to 3-6 after a quick dinner break. I've got 334 now, so I'm up 234 since this morning, in a little under 300 hands. Now to be specific, I know this winrate is not sustainable in the long run so flame away but not on that point. Thanks to those who shared experiences of similar exercises, keep em coming and have fun playing.

Matt
P.S. I'm still trying to figure out all the features of PT now that I finally bought it but I'll try to post a screenshot of my 3-6 session if I can. If not I'll try to at least have accurate numbers.