I need some rocking indie tunes!!

[CallMeIshmael]

I saw someone else post some music he likes, and then ask for some recommendations. Which I thought was a pretty cool idea. So, I'll give it a try:

Favourite stuff from 2004:

Wilco - A ghost is born
Iron and Wine - Our endless numbered days
Arcade Fire - Funeral

Favourite Stuff from the past 10 years or so:

Wilco - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot (their best. Plus all others)
The Flaming Lips - Soft Bulletin and Yoshima Battles...
Iron and Wine - Creek drank the craddle
The Shins - Oh, Inverted World and Chutes Too Narrow
Neutral Milk Hotel - Aeroplane over the sea

Stuff I don't like:

Radiohead, death cab/postal service, modest mouse, dashboard confessional.

Any help would be super!
thanks.

[ilya]

Have you heard The Decemberists? I haven't listened to indie rock in a while but if I remember right they weren't entirely unlike NMH.

[IndieMatty]

I'm hesitant to reccomend anything to you because Modest Mouse might be the best indie band of the last 10 years...(older stuff).. that being said.

Harder: And You Will Know Us By The Trail of Dead - Source Tags and Codes

Folksy: Kings of Convenience - Anything

Punkesque in theory, Avante Garde in Practice: Cursive - The Ugly Organ

Shake yo Groove Thang: Minus The Bear

Lovely: Magnetic Fields - 69 Love Songs


New Age Crescendo Rock: Explosions in the Sky

Anything Godspeed.

[CallMeIshmael]

Yep.

Already a big fan.

[ilya]

You probably already know about this cool resource (http://www.dustedmagazine.com)

[Slow Play Ray]

try rooftop suicide club (http://www.rooftopsuicideclub.com/space.htm).

[Jack of Arcades]

You get Iron and Wine's Woman King EP yet?

[jason_t]

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Have you heard The Decemberists? I haven't listened to indie rock in a while but if I remember right they weren't entirely unlike NMH.

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Salon article (http://www.salon.com/ent/music/review/2003/09/16/decemberists/index.html) that compares NMH and The Decemberists.

[jason_t]

Rilo Kiley

[jason_t]

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Radiohead, death cab/postal service, modest mouse, dashboard confessional.

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Blasphemy!

[CallMeIshmael]

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Radiohead, death cab/postal service, modest mouse, dashboard confessional.

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Blasphemy!

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Which part, or just all?

Please, oh please, don't say 'radiohead'. I just don't get it.

The bends I could stand. OK Comp, and everything following, just drives me insane.

[CallMeIshmael]

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You get Iron and Wine's Woman King EP yet?

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You'd better believe it.

Also, if you're an I&W fan, have you heard 'Dead Man's Will'? It never got an official release, but it is one of my favourite songs by the Beamer.

[jgorham]

I just don't get you. Everything on your list is fantastic music. How on earth can you not like Radiohead??? I am in denial that you actually don't like them. The rest of your taste is too good. Get stoned and listen to them some more.

That said, I would recommend the Fiery Furnaces. Blueberry Boat is a fantastic album, but takes a little getting used to. They just released an album of B sides which are great and a lot more accessible, so I would probably start with that.

[jgorham]

Not sure if you like the Pixies, but if not, get Surfer Rosa. If you do like the Pixies, you should pick up Frank Black's solo album Teenager of the Year. Just got it, and really like it.

Another thought: Broken Social Scene's You Forget it in People is great as well

[jason_t]

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Radiohead, death cab/postal service, modest mouse, dashboard confessional.

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Blasphemy!

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Which part, or just all?

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Radiohead and Death Cab for sure, but also Postal Service and Modest Mouse. The Dashboard Confessional I can excuse.

[jason_t]

Muse is good, too. Oh wait. You don't like Radiohead. Nevermind.

[Jack of Arcades]

No doubt you've heard of most of these 77 artists. But it should keep you occupied.

AC Newman
And You Will Know Us By The Trail of Dead
At the Drive-In
Belle & Sebastian
Beta Band
Blonde Redhead
Blur
Brian Jonestwon Massacre
Bright Eyes
Built to Spill
Califone
Camera Obscura
Cansecos
Cat Power
Coldplay
Concretes
Dandy Warhols
Destroyer
Dismemberment Plan
Doves
Dredg
Dresden Dolls
Elliott Smith
Enon
Espers
Exploding Hearts
Faint
Fiery Furnaces
Franz Ferdinand
Futureheads
Go! Team
Hives
Hot Hot Heat
Husker Du
Icarus Line
Interpol
John Vanderslice
Joy Division
Kasabian
Killers
Kings of Leon
Lou Barlow
LOW
M. Ward
Manitoba
Mission of Burma
Neko Case
New Pornographers
Of Montreal
On!Air!Library!
One AM Radio
P.J. Harvey
Pavement
Peter Murphy
Phantom Planet
Pixies
R.E.M.
Rilo Kiley
Sebadoh
Secret Machines
Sleater-Kinney
Snow Patrol
Sonic Youth
Spoon
Stars
Stellastarr
Stereolab
Stills
Strokes
Sun Kil Moon
Ted Leo
Unicorns
Veils
Walkmen
White Stripes
Wrens
Yeah Yeah Yeahs

[lighterjobs]

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Arcade Fire - Funeral

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the best album of the year.

[CallMeIshmael]

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Not sure if you like the Pixies, but if not, get Surfer Rosa. If you do like the Pixies, you should pick up Frank Black's solo album Teenager of the Year. Just got it, and really like it.

Another thought: Broken Social Scene's You Forget it in People is great as well

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Big pixies / BSS fan. Haven't checked out 'Teenager of the year'. Thanks.

Follow up, RE: Radiohead. There are certain albums that I just don't get, but I should get. I, once every 6 months or so, will go back and give it a shot.

About 4 years ago, I would have said I couldn't stand Dark Side of the Moon. But, I would keep trying to understand. Then, one day, BAM!

Floyd is now my second favourite band (yet another reason why I should like OK Comp??)

Other examples of this happening include 'Pet Sounds' and 'In the Aeroplane over the sea.'

So, I still keep trying to get OK Comp, simply because everyone who likes what I like says I should like it. So there still is hope for me!

[ilya]

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I just don't get you. Everything on your list is fantastic music. How on earth can you not like Radiohead??? I am in denial that you actually don't like them. The rest of your taste is too good. Get stoned and listen to them some more.

That said, I would recommend the Fiery Furnaces. Blueberry Boat is a fantastic album, but takes a little getting used to. They just released an album of B sides which are great and a lot more accessible, so I would probably start with that.

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Well the last two Radiohead albums have been kind of self-consciously difficult. He seems to like more melodic, songwritey stuff. That sounds condescending I guess but I don't mean it to, my taste is the same. Although I do like OK Computer.

[Jack of Arcades]

I dunno. I can definitely see that for Kid A/Amnesiac, but I really thought HTTT was pretty damned straightforward (like OK Comp)

[ilya]

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I dunno. I can definitely see that for Kid A/Amnesiac, but I really thought HTTT was pretty damned straightforward (like OK Comp)

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My bad, you may be right. I actually haven't heard HTTT.

[CallMeIshmael]

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He seems to like more melodic, songwritey stuff. That sounds condescending I guess but I don't mean it to, my taste is the same. Although I do like OK Computer.

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I think you've nailed it here. My tastes tend to lie in that nebulous region that is too indie for the pop crowd and too pop for the indie crowd.

[Jack of Arcades]

Well, I dunno. I might be weird here, I know a lot of people were turned off by HTTT. I love everything they've done since The Bends.

[lighterjobs]

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Radiohead, death cab/postal service, modest mouse, dashboard confessional.

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Blasphemy!

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Which part, or just all?

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Radiohead and Death Cab for sure, but also Postal Service and Modest Mouse. The Dashboard Confessional I can excuse.

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i like dcfc, but i can't stand ben gibbard's voice for some reason. just kind of annoys me.

[lighterjobs]

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Muse is good, too. Oh wait. You don't like Radiohead. Nevermind.

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i don't think CallMeIshmael likes the mainstream stuff like radiohead and muse.

[mason55]

I'll second Cursive - The ugly organ. If you're big on lyrics, it's amazing story telling and really really good music.

Dunno how hard of stuff you like, but two really really good harder bands are the blood brothers and saetia. hot cross is less hard (they are partially saetia after saetia's break up) and still realyl good.

[mason55]

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ugh, dcfc is so boring /images/graemlins/frown.gif i can't even listen to them when i'm really high. but i hate belle and sebastian too so i'm probably an outcast or something.

[mason55]

Oh oh, thought of some more good ones.

if you haven't heard The Fire Theft, they're really good, ex members of Sunny Day Real Estate. If you haven't heard SDRE they're awesome awesome too.

jets to brazil is good. burning airlines is good. most people like black rebel motorcycle club, but i'm not a huge fan. i think you'd like them though.

if you like dancier stuff, the rapture is good, radio 4 is good but a little more on the electronic side, but quite good. LCD soundsystem is rockin too.

[CallMeIshmael]

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Muse is good, too. Oh wait. You don't like Radiohead. Nevermind.

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I really don't like Muse. A friend of mine said I had to listen, because I would love them. Sadly, no.

Also, I would like to point something else out here: I tend to differentiate between bands I don't like, and those I don't think are good.

I very much recognize Radiohead as an amazing talent. Even though I don't *like* them, I can appreciate them. Hell, even I was annoyed by Kid Rock whiping his ass with Radiohead toilet paper in that video. What a jerk. Now, he just plain sucks.

Also, where are the Wilco lovers out there?

Statement: Yankee Hotel Foxtrot is thus far the best album I've listened to this decade.

[gvibes]

If you like Iron & Wine, I think you'd like Sufjan Stevens 0 Seven Swans in particular.

[CallMeIshmael]

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If you like Iron & Wine, I think you'd like Sufjan Stevens 0 Seven Swans in particular.

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Big fan.

Iron and Wine, Sufjan and Elliot Smith almost seem to go hand in hand with one another. But I'm not a big ES fan for some reason.

[Jack of Arcades]

Summerteeth is better, but I'm weird like that.

[CallMeIshmael]

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Summerteeth is better.

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I can accept that. If it were any other album, I'd have problems with it. But ST is very very very good. Even as a wilco record goes.

[jgorham]

Yeah man, Wilco is fantastic - one of the main reasons I can't wait to hit up Coachella this year. Which reminds me, have you heard Spoon before? You would probably like them.

[CallMeIshmael]

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Have you heard Spoon before? You would probably like them.

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You are correct.

'The way we get by' is one of my favourite tunes.

[nothumb]

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So, I still keep trying to get OK Comp, simply because everyone who likes what I like says I should like it. So there still is hope for me!

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WTF, who cares what other people say? If you don't like it you don't like it. Have you heard any of the newer stuff?

Now, it should also be said, if you don't like it, you're crazy, but I'd rather you be crazy than another follower.

NT

[astroglide]

i've never heard a wilco song. i can spot their fans from a million miles away though, but i also couldn't describe to you what it is about them that is so identifiable. generally i don't like them. the same is true of omaha players.

[MasterShakes]

I don't know if he's been mentioned yet, but these songs by Matthew Good are epic, IMO:

Hello Time Bomb
Alert Status Red
While We Were Hunting Rabbits

His entire catelog is highly recommended, but if you just want a few of his absolute best, there they are.

[Enon]

Mayday - Old Blood

This album came out about 3 years ago and was hugely ignored by most of the indie press. The lead singer used to lead another great band called 'Lullaby for the working class'.

Here are 2 tracks from the album:
Captain (http://www.saddle-creek.com/sounds/Mayday_Captain.mp3)
Come Home (http://www.saddle-creek.com/sounds/Mayday_ComeHome.mp3)

Another album you have probably heard of that deserves mention is

The Microphones: The Glow Pt. 2
The Moon (http://www.kpunk.com/mp3/Microphones_themoon.mp3)
I felt Your Shape (http://www.kpunk.com/mp3/Microphones_Ifeltyourshape.mp3)

[IndieMatty]

Love Saetia!

And of course BB.

[IndieMatty]

I am also going to Coachella. Staying at the fantasy resort.

[mason55]

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I don't know if he's been mentioned yet, but these songs by Matthew Good are epic, IMO:

Hello Time Bomb
Alert Status Red
While We Were Hunting Rabbits

His entire catelog is highly recommended, but if you just want a few of his absolute best, there they are.

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Haven't listened to a ton of Matthew Good, but I played 21st cetury living on repeat for about week when it first came out.

[sublime]

schnieds turned me onto snow patrol. very nice stuff.

[daveymck]

Kaiser Chiefs, only heard two songs by them album just came out last week.

Link to their video (on Quicktime sorry)

I predict a Riot (http://boss.streamos.com/qtime/universalmotown/universal/kaiser_chiefs/video/300_ipredictariot.mov)

[kemystery]

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Favourite stuff from 2004:

Wilco - A ghost is born
Iron and Wine - Our endless numbered days
Arcade Fire - Funeral

Favourite Stuff from the past 10 years or so:

Wilco - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot (their best. Plus all others)
The Flaming Lips - Soft Bulletin and Yoshima Battles...
Iron and Wine - Creek drank the craddle
The Shins - Oh, Inverted World and Chutes Too Narrow
Neutral Milk Hotel - Aeroplane over the sea

Stuff I don't like:

Radiohead, death cab/postal service, modest mouse, dashboard confessional.

Any help would be super!
thanks.

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I have never heard of any of those bands. I think I need to get out more, or just stay in completely.

[kemystery]

btw, Rocking; I like 'Me First and the Gimmes', Mighty Mighty Bosstones have a couple rockers or 'Save Ferris' for a little ska (Lead singer sounds hot!)

but when you say indy, I think Fugazi and dischord records.
So add Fugazi I guess too.

[CallMeIshmael]

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I don't know if he's been mentioned yet, but these songs by Matthew Good are epic, IMO:

Hello Time Bomb
Alert Status Red
While We Were Hunting Rabbits

His entire catelog is highly recommended, but if you just want a few of his absolute best, there they are.

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I'm Canadian, so I know all about Matt Good. He's great. He is also VERY big here, compared to his status in the states.

[jgorham]

Pitchfork (http://www.pitchforkmedia.com) is a great site with a ton of reviews. I don't always agree with them, but they have turned me onto many a band I wouldn't have found otherwise. And I am sure you have heard them because they are fairly mainstream (maybe not in Canada?) but Franz Ferdinand are really quite good as well.

[Jack of Arcades]

Old 97s

[CallMeIshmael]

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Pitchfork (http://www.pitchforkmedia.com) is a great site with a ton of reviews. I don't always agree with them, but they have turned me onto many a band I wouldn't have found otherwise. And I am sure you have heard them because they are fairly mainstream (maybe not in Canada?) but Franz Ferdinand are really quite good as well.

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I had never been there. Thanks for the resouce.

Yeah, FF is semi-big here. But, not like the strokes big or anything.

I dig some of the stuff. Really love the matinee. I've heard it desribed as 'what the second strokes album should have been.' Which I could see. I was lukewarm of the first strokes, and the second one was lame to me.

While we're at it... I also need some rocking old tunes!!

I mean, I just discovered Nick Drake a year ago. So, if anyone has some old stuff that doesn't get a lot of attention these days, I'd love to hear about it.

If I had to pick some old stuff I really liked:

Beatles - Big 5 + Let it be + Magical mystery tour + help
(nothing before help... but I don't think listing these albums as something you like really narrows down your taste)

Floyd - The big ones, but I also really dig animals and wish you were here

Zeppelin - I only really dig 4 (take that for what its worth)

the Who - Whos next and quadrophenia

Stones - Beggars banquet and Let it bleed

I'm hit or miss with Dylan.. but I love blood on the tracks

The more melodic half of the velvet underground is some of my favourite stuff. If you listen to them, you know what I mean. (stuff like sweet jane)

Thanks for all the replies btw!! you guys are great!

[jgorham]

Try My Bloody Valentine's Loveless

[mmbt0ne]

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btw, Rocking; I like 'Me First and the Gimmes', Mighty Mighty Bosstones have a couple rockers or 'Save Ferris' for a little ska (Lead singer sounds hot!)

but when you say indy, I think Fugazi and dischord records.
So add Fugazi I guess too.

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A COUPLE!!!!!!!!! You obviously have only heard a couple of their songs then. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

Since you seem to have good taste in music, I give you Pilfers. Listen to Chawalaleng, and enjoy.


Side note: Am I the only person who really doesn't like the slow melodic stuff like Death Cab? I don't know, it just feels like I should be sitting in a dark room by myself, not doing a damn thing when I'm listening to that. I think it's boring.

[Jack of Arcades]

Joy Division, Bauhaus, Siouxsie and the Banshees, Echo and the Bunnymen, Sisters of Mercy, Velvet Underground

[mason55]

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Side note: Am I the only person who really doesn't like the slow melodic stuff like Death Cab? I don't know, it just feels like I should be sitting in a dark room by myself, not doing a damn thing when I'm listening to that. I think it's boring.

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Thank you. I really thought I was the only one in the world who thought that. I hate Death Cab. I used to just dislike them but every time I hear someone talk about how amazing they are i just dislike them a little bit more. It's now grown to an irrational hatred.

[Jack of Arcades]

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Side note: Am I the only person who really doesn't like the slow melodic stuff like Death Cab? I don't know, it just feels like I should be sitting in a dark room by myself, not doing a damn thing when I'm listening to that. I think it's boring.

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I don't consider Death Cab "slow melodic stuff."

[mmbt0ne]

Sigh. This was the same response I got on another forum when I started talking about hardcore bands I didn't like. Everyone just said they aren't hardcore.

If that's not how you would describe the music, then fine. Describe it however you want, but hopefully I made my point well enough that you know what kind of music I'm talking about.

[mason55]

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Sigh. This was the same response I got on another forum when I started talking about hardcore bands I didn't like. Everyone just said they aren't hardcore

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Now I'm curious /images/graemlins/cool.gif Don't think many people on here can list any hardcore bands, what do you like/not like?

PS this is much better than the latest gossip about 50/The Game/Jadakiss

[Jack of Arcades]

Sorry, I'm not trying to be an ass, I just consider a lot of DCFC to be really poppy.

[kemystery]

A COUPLE!!!!!!!!! You obviously have only heard a couple of their songs then. /images/graemlins/wink.gif


was refering to strictly 'rock' type songs, aggreed MMB - have a great catolog.

Undisputed favorite MMB song: 'Someday I suppose'


also, Minor Threat, Bad Brains

[mmbt0ne]

Well, at the risk of hearing another "Those aren't hardcore!!! Blood to Blood, The Cro-Mags, Haven Street!! That's hardcore!!" style rant, I'll say that I like Poison the Well, and Norma Jean for starters. Thursday is one of my favorite bands, but I usually get a lot of arguement over whether they're hardcore, screamo, or some other derivative.

Some From Autumn to Ashes stuff is decent, they put on an awesome show though. I never got into Atreyu, The Blood Brothers, and especially underOATH. In fact, I basically hate underOATH.

JoA: yeah, I came off a little hard in that post. I didn't mean anything towards you by it, just afraid it was gonna turn into a situation like the last one.

[mmbt0ne]

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A COUPLE!!!!!!!!! You obviously have only heard a couple of their songs then. /images/graemlins/wink.gif


was refering to strictly 'rock' type songs, aggreed MMB - have a great catolog.

Undisputed favorite MMB song: 'Someday I suppose'

also, Minor Threat, Bad Brains

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Solid choice. That was the first song I learned how to play on bass.

QTA is definitely the best cd if you want Bosstones rock though. 365 days, Toxic Toast, Bronzing the Garbage, and Dogs and Chaplains is one of the best 4 song runs on any cd ever.

[mason55]

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Well, at the risk of hearing another "Those aren't hardcore!!! Blood to Blood, The Cro-Mags, Haven Street!! That's hardcore!!" style rant, I'll say that I like Poison the Well, and Norma Jean for starters. Thursday is one of my favorite bands, but I usually get a lot of arguement over whether they're hardcore, screamo, or some other derivative.

Some From Autumn to Ashes stuff is decent, they put on an awesome show though. I never got into Atreyu, The Blood Brothers, and especially underOATH. In fact, I basically hate underOATH.

JoA: yeah, I came off a little hard in that post. I didn't mean anything towards you by it, just afraid it was gonna turn into a situation like the last one.

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Somehow I foresaw a lot of those when you said you get accused of not being hardcore. I love most of those bands too. FATA's new album sucks but their first full length was grrrrreat and they do put on an amazing show.

Boy Sets Fire is one of my favorites but they're definitely in the normal hardcore genre. Don't really know what they are. Suprised you don't like Blood Brothers though, too high pitched?

Thursday is one of my favorite bands too. One of the best shows I've ever been to was right after they released their first album the played this show in a shelterhouse in a park with like 40 people in the audience, half of whom were in the bands that were playing that night. It was Thursday and a bunch of hXc bands like Santa Sangre, xTHROWDOWNx, Stretch Armstrong, and De La Hoya. Amazing amazing show.

[mmbt0ne]

Oh man, Stretch Armstrong is good stuff. The Thursday/Thrice/Coheed concert a little over a year ago was the last great concert I've been to.

Calling me hardcore would definitely be a stretch since I listen to Movielife, Motion City Soundtrack, Further Seems Forever, and the like a lot. I don't know what it is about Blood Brothers, I don't hate them, just kind of indifferent. I haven't listened to much Boy Sets Fire, no reason except laziness, but I hear good things.

[mason55]

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Definitely would never call myself hardcore. First of all, all the sXe kids I know would kick my ass cause I am about as far from sXe as you get. I definitely am in the indie camp, even though I listen to as much indie as hXc, hip-hop, and drum n bass.

Meh, Eff labels /images/graemlins/smile.gif Just glad to see someone else on here who listens to stuff that even resembles hardcore.

[daveymck]

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Well, at the risk of hearing another "Those aren't hardcore!!! Blood to Blood, The Cro-Mags, Haven Street!! That's hardcore!!" style rant, I'll say that I like Poison the Well, and Norma Jean for starters. Thursday is one of my favorite bands, but I usually get a lot of arguement over whether they're hardcore, screamo, or some other derivative.

Some From Autumn to Ashes stuff is decent, they put on an awesome show though. I never got into Atreyu, The Blood Brothers, and especially underOATH. In fact, I basically hate underOATH.

JoA: yeah, I came off a little hard in that post. I didn't mean anything towards you by it, just afraid it was gonna turn into a situation like the last one.

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Somehow I foresaw a lot of those when you said you get accused of not being hardcore. I love most of those bands too. FATA's new album sucks but their first full length was grrrrreat and they do put on an amazing show.

Boy Sets Fire is one of my favorites but they're definitely in the normal hardcore genre. Don't really know what they are. Suprised you don't like Blood Brothers though, too high pitched?

Thursday is one of my favorite bands too. One of the best shows I've ever been to was right after they released their first album the played this show in a shelterhouse in a park with like 40 people in the audience, half of whom were in the bands that were playing that night. It was Thursday and a bunch of hXc bands like Santa Sangre, xTHROWDOWNx, Stretch Armstrong, and De La Hoya. Amazing amazing show.

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Boy Sets Fire are really good I would lump in new style AFi and Avenged Sevenfold as must listens if you like them.

Theres a load of bands around that are probably more metalcore than hardcore I would stick FATA, Every Time I die (or somthing on wrong PC to check) and bands like Trivium that have thier roots in hardcore but are basically taking on the gothenberg sound.

I now slapshot and a couple of the other second wave hard core bands still seem to be knocking around but not doing anything special.

I think to a point it was enivitable that hardcore would move back towards metal with bands like hatebreed doing well and the fact that a lot of the pop punk just sounds so tired now, I know bands like NOFX and similar are still going but are people actually listening to them still still seems to be all the same stle with no progression.

Metal has started going back to its roots and I think hardcore is as well.

[mason55]

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Boy Sets Fire are really good I would lump in new style AFi and Avenged Sevenfold as must listens if you like them.

Theres a load of bands around that are probably more metalcore than hardcore I would stick FATA, Every Time I die (or somthing on wrong PC to check) and bands like Trivium that have thier roots in hardcore but are basically taking on the gothenberg sound.

I now slapshot and a couple of the other second wave hard core bands still seem to be knocking around but not doing anything special.

I think to a point it was enivitable that hardcore would move back towards metal with bands like hatebreed doing well and the fact that a lot of the pop punk just sounds so tired now, I know bands like NOFX and similar are still going but are people actually listening to them still still seems to be all the same stle with no progression.

Metal has started going back to its roots and I think hardcore is as well.

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Yeah I like Avenged Sevenfold a lot. I don't like the new AFI stuff as much, it's just TOO produced. The older stuff I like a ton though and used to listen to it all the time.

And you're right, I definitely like hardcore with a more metal edge. I'm also a fan of bands like In Flames, which are straight up metal. The metal riffs and solos are what draw me to bands like Atreyu, even though their lyrics are childish and whiny.

I tend to stay away from grindcore, like Anodyne. I like heavy stuff but I don't want to feel like I'm in a fight against the music I'm listening to, I want to feel like I'm fighting someone else with the music as my homeboy backing me up.

[lighterjobs]

I don't know if you are into ted leo, but 'shake the sheets' is a really great album.

[daveymck]

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Boy Sets Fire are really good I would lump in new style AFi and Avenged Sevenfold as must listens if you like them.

Theres a load of bands around that are probably more metalcore than hardcore I would stick FATA, Every Time I die (or somthing on wrong PC to check) and bands like Trivium that have thier roots in hardcore but are basically taking on the gothenberg sound.

I now slapshot and a couple of the other second wave hard core bands still seem to be knocking around but not doing anything special.

I think to a point it was enivitable that hardcore would move back towards metal with bands like hatebreed doing well and the fact that a lot of the pop punk just sounds so tired now, I know bands like NOFX and similar are still going but are people actually listening to them still still seems to be all the same stle with no progression.

Metal has started going back to its roots and I think hardcore is as well.

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Yeah I like Avenged Sevenfold a lot. I don't like the new AFI stuff as much, it's just TOO produced. The older stuff I like a ton though and used to listen to it all the time.

And you're right, I definitely like hardcore with a more metal edge. I'm also a fan of bands like In Flames, which are straight up metal. The metal riffs and solos are what draw me to bands like Atreyu, even though their lyrics are childish and whiny.

I tend to stay away from grindcore, like Anodyne. I like heavy stuff but I don't want to feel like I'm in a fight against the music I'm listening to, I want to feel like I'm fighting someone else with the music as my homeboy backing me up.

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If like In Flames have to also get stuff by (if havent already) Soilwork, Dark Tranquilty, Arch Enemy and loads of other bands Sweden is prbably the best place for metal at the moment so much good stuff particulary the goth metal stuff that I really like.

This is really good site for finding good music of that genre

Swedish Metal (http://www.swedishmetal.net/default.html)

Dark Tranquility and In Flames are touring the states together shortly well worth seeing if you can.

[Macdaddy Warsaw]

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[IndieMatty]

Man I missed out on all the hardcore discussion.

[jakethebake]

punjab by karunesh
can't get enough by raghav mather
bhangra fever by midival punditz

oh, wait...nevermind. you said indie tunes...
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