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KyleH186
03-11-2005, 07:37 PM
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (5 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

UTG (t930)
Hero (t2510)
Button (t2380)
SB (t730)
BB (t1450)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls t200, Hero calls t200, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t800) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t350</font>, SB folds, BB calls t350, UTG folds.

Turn: (t1500) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: (t1500) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB bets 900 (All-In). Hero folds.

Final Pot: t1500

curtains
03-11-2005, 07:41 PM
My opinion is that you are almost surely losing on the river.

RoyalLance
03-11-2005, 07:47 PM
To be honest, if I were the one going all in in this hand, I would more likely be bluffing.

aaronjacobg
03-11-2005, 07:49 PM
Do you make a habit of limping with a pp with blinds that high? I think that I would have raised pf. Based on a general read this would be a great flop for your hand. I think that the fold on the end was marginal but correct but if you had played the hand differently up to that point you might have won a small pot which is important with that hand at this point in the tourney. Hope this helps.

Jake

curtains
03-11-2005, 07:51 PM
and Royal please tell me what you called 350 on the flop with too if it was you playing this hand.

KyleH186
03-11-2005, 07:52 PM
No I don't usually limp with PPs this late, but i had a lot of loose callers at the table, and didnt feel comfortable make a small raise with it, and missing the flop, and someones q 6 taking it.

jeffraider
03-11-2005, 08:33 PM
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No I don't usually limp with PPs this late, but i had a lot of loose callers at the table, and didnt feel comfortable make a small raise with it, and missing the flop, and someones q 6 taking it.

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KyleH186
03-11-2005, 09:45 PM
Villain shows AQ as a bluff. I just couldnt call though, because i was beat by so many things that he would have called my flop bet with, and the overcard on the turn just made things a little bit worse. I ended up winning the tourney, so its no big deal I guess.

lastchance
03-11-2005, 09:54 PM
It is a big deal. I think you really have to push flop. Remember, if your stack is bigger than any other stack in the pot right now, then you have to use second-biggest stack, and when you account into that, just push flop.

You don't bet t350, you bet all-in, cuz any card higher than a 7 slows you down, and you want the pot, and if you don't get the pot, you certainly don't want someone bluffing you out of the pot.

One of my weakness is not going all-in often and leaving myself stuck, especially with a good hand that might often be great.

You have to fold river, but more importantly, you have to push flop.

KyleH186
03-11-2005, 10:00 PM
I dont think I see enough reason to push the flop, maybe a larger bet, maybe 550 or so would have pushed out his AQ, but pushing the flop can lead to a lot of problems with a hand like this, including one of the blinds holding an 8.

curtains
03-11-2005, 10:04 PM
Also don't limp here preflop.

lastchance
03-11-2005, 10:15 PM
You're not betting 2200, you're betting the stack size of BB, which is about 1200 in to a 800 pot. Push flop, and you know what, curtains is right, bet preflop too, probably to the tune of all-in.