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Eyeback

03-10-2005, 11:26 AM

Sorry for spamming these HH. Hopefully I'll learn something /images/graemlins/smile.gif

#1
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Preflop: Hero is CO with T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG calls, 3 folds, MP2 raises, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets, 3 folds, UTG folds, MP2 caps, Hero calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
MP2 bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.25 BB) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
MP2 bets, Hero calls.

River: (8.25 BB) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 8.25 BB

#2
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Preflop: Hero is BB with 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, 5 folds, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif (5 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks.

Turn: (2.50 BB) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif (5 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, SB folds.

River: (6.50 BB) J/images/graemlins/club.gif (4 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 checks.

Final Pot: 6.50 BB

#3

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Preflop: Hero is CO with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 4 folds, Hero raises, 3 folds, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (5.50 SB) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 raises, Hero 3-bets, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (5.75 BB) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 calls.

River: (7.75 BB) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 7.75 BB

#4

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Preflop: Hero is BB with Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 5 folds, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (3 SB) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, UTG+1 folds, SB calls.

Turn: (3.50 BB) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB calls.

River: (5.50 BB) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 5.50 BB

#5

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Preflop: Hero is Button with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif. CO posts a blind of $1.
2 folds, MP1 raises, 1 fold, CO (poster) calls, Hero 3-bets, 2 folds, MP1 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
MP1 bets, CO calls, Hero raises, MP1 3-bets, CO calls, Hero caps, MP1 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (11.25 BB) K/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
MP1 checks, CO checks, Hero bets, MP1 calls, CO calls.

River: (14.25 BB) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
MP1 checks, CO checks, Hero bets, MP1 raises, CO folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 18.25 BB

#6

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Preflop: Hero is SB with 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls, 2 folds, MP2 calls, 2 folds, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP2 bets, Hero raises, BB folds, UTG folds, MP2 3-bets, Hero caps, MP2 calls.

Turn: (6 BB) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks.

River: (6 BB) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets, MP2 calls.

Final Pot: 8 BB

#7

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Preflop: Hero is Button with K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
2 folds, MP1 calls, 2 folds, CO calls, Hero raises, 2 folds, MP1 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 players)
MP1 checks, CO checks, Hero bets, MP1 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (5.25 BB) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
MP1 checks, CO checks, Hero bets, MP1 folds, CO raises, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 8.25 BB

All input appreciated, thanks /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Reef

03-10-2005, 11:37 AM

first off, post 1 hand at a time. Wait at least 4 hours before posting the next hand.

hand 1: I think I would raise the turn and fold to a 3-bet. If called, I'd check the river. Maybe do this with the flop instead of the turn.

hand 2: I think you can bet this flop. It probably missed the callers.

hand 3: bet the river

hand 4: fine

hand 5: fine

hand 6: I check/call the river

hand 7: reads would REALLY help here. He raised into a multiway field. Unlikely a bluff. Pot is still small, I think a fold is ok.

zuluking

03-10-2005, 11:38 AM

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You're about to learn that by posting 7 hands, hardly anyone will respond.

jaxUp

03-10-2005, 11:42 AM

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Hopefully I'll learn something /images/graemlins/smile.gif

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You're about to learn that by posting 7 hands, hardly anyone will respond.

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nh

Reef

03-10-2005, 11:44 AM

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Hopefully I'll learn something /images/graemlins/smile.gif

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You're about to learn that by posting 7 hands, hardly anyone will respond.

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I'm extra nice to everyone (noobs included), as it is my carpal tunnel metamorphosis.

Eyeback

03-10-2005, 11:48 AM

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first off, post 1 hand at a time. Wait at least 4 hours before posting the next hand.

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Keep that in mind thanks.

The villain in #7 was LAG (based on my 30ish hand read) so thats why I hesitated before I folded.

Anyways, thanks for all the input and I'll keep my HH to one hand at the time from now on /images/graemlins/smile.gif

@bsolute_luck

03-10-2005, 12:05 PM

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first off, post 1 hand at a time. Wait at least 4 hours before posting the next hand.

hand 1: I think I would raise the turn and fold to a 3-bet. If called, I'd check the river. Maybe do this with the flop instead of the turn.

hand 2: I think you can bet this flop. It probably missed the callers.

hand 3: bet the river

hand 4: fine

hand 5: fine

hand 6: I check/call the river

hand 7: reads would REALLY help here. He raised into a multiway field. Unlikely a bluff. Pot is still small, I think a fold is ok.

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whew! 7 hands is a lot to think about /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

okay i differ from your suggestions some, but i was close. i usually don't play this higher limit, but i'm learning. anyway....

#1: Initially i had thought fold the flop. your suggestion is more aggressive than i tend to be, but if that's the best idea, then i can try to change.

#2: Agree to bet flop. What about betting the river?

#3: Agreed bet river.

#4: What about raising PRF? Other than that, okay.

#5: Agreed played fine. River just sucks.

#6: What about calling the 3-bet instead of raising?

#7: I had thought calling on the turn, but the pot is pretty small.

Reef

03-10-2005, 12:25 PM

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first off, post 1 hand at a time. Wait at least 4 hours before posting the next hand.

hand 1: I think I would raise the turn and fold to a 3-bet. If called, I'd check the river. Maybe do this with the flop instead of the turn.

hand 2: I think you can bet this flop. It probably missed the callers.

hand 3: bet the river

hand 4: fine

hand 5: fine

hand 6: I check/call the river

hand 7: reads would REALLY help here. He raised into a multiway field. Unlikely a bluff. Pot is still small, I think a fold is ok.

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whew! 7 hands is a lot to think about /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

okay i differ from your suggestions some, but i was close. i usually don't play this higher limit, but i'm learning. anyway....

#1: Initially i had thought fold the flop. your suggestion is more aggressive than i tend to be, but if that's the best idea, then i can try to change.

#2: Agree to bet flop. What about betting the river?

#3: Agreed bet river.

#4: What about raising PRF? Other than that, okay.

#5: Agreed played fine. River just sucks.

#6: What about calling the 3-bet instead of raising?

#7: I had thought calling on the turn, but the pot is pretty small.

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I am no poker authority by any means. I am just a winning 4-tabling 2/4 player. These are just my opinions, that's all.

#1) this is really player dependent. The raise gives me information and a chance for them to muck.

#2) betting and folding to a raise is an ok option (but my 2nd choice).. but 4 handed, I just don't feel like a worse hand will call/better hand will fold.

#4) raise Q3s preflop from the BB?

#6) I like capping because your pot equity is HUGE

#7) again, this is really player dependent. It could go either way

@bsolute_luck

03-10-2005, 12:31 PM

well i just started playing for real money @ .25/.5 (and i won last night) so i'll take all the help i can get.

at the higher micro stakes, i don't know if it would work, but limping in with Q3s just seems kinda pointless especially if you don't hit a solid flush draw on the flop. by raising, you could win the pot from the limpers or have more $$ in if you do hit your flush.

i guess with only 3 in, a Queen pair is good? anyway, steal attempt was my thought though i don't know if it would work.

hate

03-10-2005, 12:47 PM

hand #1, I bet the river, it's more than possible he's on a frisky AK, I see that commonly capped.

hand #3, you should be betting the river.

hand #6, you've got a gutshot straight draw, a flush draw, and a middle pair. Why would you not bet the turn?

I call down on #7.

Reef

03-10-2005, 12:56 PM

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hand #1, I bet the river, it's more than possible he's on a frisky AK, I see that commonly capped.

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a river bet is fine.. I just don't see a worse hand calling/better hand folding.

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hand #6, you've got a gutshot straight draw, a flush draw, and a middle pair. Why would you not bet the turn?

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no improvement, one less card, and it would suck to be raised (which seems likely).

nonetheless, it's HU and I probably would bet in this spot.

Eyeback

03-10-2005, 01:01 PM

Thanks for all input.

I'm going to post some more of my own thoughts regarding these hands after thinking them through and reading your thoughts.

#1 calling on the flop must be a misstake. Raise and fold on a turn bet or fold on the flop right away. Would had been different if I held the T/images/graemlins/spade.gif right?

#2 is tricky. Both beting flop and river are good choices, cant really figure this hand out.

#3 obvious river bet.

#4 raise PF? The game is fairly tight and i cant by any means have an equity edge.

#5 I thought my biggest misstake was betting the river here as only TT,JJ and QQ would pay me of and the other possible hands would reraise. Though everyone suggest the betting here so I'm probably wrong.

#6 I dont have a gutshot on the turn as someone suggested but still probably worth a bet. Weather check-calling or beting the river is better i dont know. Bet the turn and check call the river might be best.

#7 seems like 50/50 (call down/fold) without a good read on villain.

Thanks again everyone for your oppinions.