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MarkL444
03-10-2005, 01:59 AM
Im a little curious about something. When is position at its highest importance? It seems like the sooner you can identify a -EV situation, the better. That would mean it is more important preflop. On the other hand, the ability to steal pots, pump draws, etc postflop wins a lot of bets. Im not really sure if there is even an argument here, but Im curious to see what people think.
emonrad87
03-10-2005, 02:40 AM
Position is waayy more important postflop just like overall post flop skillz are waaaayyy more important than preflop skillz.
Jdanz
03-10-2005, 03:14 AM
you don't get people to fold hands pre-flop, you get them to fold on the flop and turn because they're afraid of calling multiple bets when behind, and getting no more money when ahead.

-JDanz
Hermlord
03-10-2005, 03:23 AM
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you don't get people to fold hands pre-flop, you get them to fold on the flop and turn because they're afraid of calling multiple bets when behind, and getting no more money when ahead.

-JDanz

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Wait -- you get people to fold hands?
AncientPC
03-10-2005, 05:03 AM
Who voted pre-flop? *laughs and points*
jason_t
03-10-2005, 05:19 AM
Is this a trick question?
MarkL444
03-10-2005, 05:27 AM
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Is this a trick question?

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eh.

it became clear to me after i posted it
thirddan
03-10-2005, 06:04 AM
i would say that absolute position is more important preflop and relative position is more important postflop...
Kurn, son of Mogh
03-10-2005, 07:03 AM
The more experience I get playing various forms of poker, the more I realize that the easiest street to play in all of poker is preflop in Hold'em.

And on the question, I agree with Thirddan. Absolute position preflop, relative position postflop.
lorinda
03-10-2005, 07:21 AM
Who voted pre-flop? *laughs and points*

Saabpo.
Reef
03-10-2005, 08:34 AM
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Who voted pre-flop? *laughs and points*

Saabpo.

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nh
Sarge85
03-10-2005, 12:34 PM
You left off a choice....

Postflop - and it's not even eff'n close.

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axioma
03-10-2005, 03:27 PM
polls always seem to cheer me up, in a 'at least im superior to x people' kind of way.
Shammu
03-10-2005, 03:48 PM
I have to say it's different in NL than L, in NL pre-flop position is as important as the post-flop.
junkmail3
03-10-2005, 05:06 PM
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I have to say it's different in NL than L, in NL pre-flop position is as important as the post-flop.

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But not really.
AncientPC
03-10-2005, 05:20 PM
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I have to say it's different in NL than L, in NL pre-flop position is as important as the post-flop.

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But not really.

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Justin A
03-10-2005, 05:54 PM
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I have to say it's different in NL than L, in NL pre-flop position is as important as the post-flop.

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You lie!!
Shammu
03-10-2005, 06:35 PM
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You lie!!

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Why do you think so? in L hold'em, the most risk that you take is being re-raised or capped!! in NL, you can be in big trouble if you make a healthy bet and someone in position goes on top or push, you either have to fold and loose your bet or take a risk of loosing all you chips, this is my opinion anyways.
Jdanz
03-10-2005, 07:10 PM
no.

to elaborate, deep stack no limit, bets post flop = real big (on average) pre-flop real small (on average). Post flop is way more important in both and way more important in NL then limit.

difference in limit in having position is a bet, in NL it's a stack.

(that's not a cliche, i thought of it myself, well before brunson et. all)

-JDanz