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walkdoc
03-10-2005, 12:32 AM
Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed)

So, fast play this hand, or slow play it?

converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif. UTG posts a blind of $0.5.
Hero calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO :#A500AF(villain)/ calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, UTG (poster) calls, Hero calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO :#A500AF(villain)/ calls.

Flop: (12 SB) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, villain calls, SB calls.

Sugggestions?
jaxUp
03-10-2005, 12:35 AM
nicely done. As a rule, I fast play all sets (with a few excepions)
GrunchCan
03-10-2005, 12:36 AM
Edit: Wait, what happened PF? The action is all screwed up.
walkdoc
03-10-2005, 12:38 AM
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I'll go for overcalls on the flop with so many people behind you.

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What do you mean exactly? Just call it and ride it through to build equity?
UncleSalty
03-10-2005, 12:38 AM
Without any reads on the table, I'm not sure I play 88 in EP. However, since you did, and you got so much preflop action, I think it's a no brainer to bet/raise every street possible.

Unless SB is holding KK you have the best hand and you can't give free cards to the diamond draws. Hope you won...
toss
03-10-2005, 12:38 AM
No real reason this slowplay this flop. Get those bets in.
milesdyson
03-10-2005, 12:39 AM
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I'm not sure I play 88 in EP.

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That's not even funny. /images/graemlins/frown.gif
KnickNut3
03-10-2005, 12:40 AM
You got 3 cold callers and a completer on your first raise.
Easy. Keep betting, keep raising. The only time to slowplay is when you flop something huge, like nut flush or quads on the flop and need to convince everyone else that you don't have it to get anyone to pay you at all. Otherwise, just keep betting.
GrunchCan
03-10-2005, 12:41 AM
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I'll go for overcalls on the flop with so many people behind you.

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What do you mean exactly? Just call it and ride it through to build equity?

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That is what I meant, but I retracted my post, becasue I couldn't understand the PF action. If it was raised PF, I'm just going to raise.
GrunchCan
03-10-2005, 12:42 AM
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Without any reads on the table, I'm not sure I play 88 in EP.

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Very bad. 88 isn't even a low PP - it's a mid PP. Not only is 88 strong enough to play in EP (all PPs are), its almost strong enough to raise.
walkdoc
03-10-2005, 12:42 AM
Turn: (11 BB) 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">villain raises</font>, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, villain calls, SB calls.

River: (24 BB) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP3 folds, <font color="#CC3333">villain raises</font>, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">villain caps</font>, SB calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 36 BB

To be honest, I never saw the straight draw coming. I screw that up often until it is too late. I got pretty lucky to get the full house, but then again, I had at least 10 outs to (4) 8's or pairing the board.
Also, this was my last hand to play, my decision, before I had to post another blind. I got fortunate, but want to make sure I made no horrendous mistakes before the fortuitous river. ;-)
I know I may have been overly aggressive on the turn. I do this too much too often.
Thanks.
UncleSalty
03-10-2005, 12:43 AM
Thank you guys, I stand corrected. Man am I glad I found these forums.

"Uncle Nooby" /images/graemlins/blush.gif
GrunchCan
03-10-2005, 12:46 AM
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Thank you guys, I stand corrected. Man am I glad I found these forums.

"Uncle Nooby" /images/graemlins/blush.gif

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Stick around. Welcome to the forums.
DMBFan23
03-10-2005, 12:59 AM
ok, you can have a haiku.

haven't read your post
but, I pretty much always
fastplay all my sets
GrunchCan
03-10-2005, 01:00 AM
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ok, you can have a haiku.

haven't read your post
but, I pretty much always
fastplay all my sets

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Do you have to originate a thread to score a cool haiku?
DMBFan23
03-10-2005, 01:02 AM
nah I just decided to post advice in haiku form for the time being.

je suis artiste. /images/graemlins/grin.gif
Dead
03-10-2005, 01:10 AM
DMB is cool
Always has a good haiku
Michael Bolton pwnz.
JKetzer
03-10-2005, 01:30 AM
When will you slowplay
a set such as this heads-up?
Then, flush draw: small fear.
GrunchCan
03-10-2005, 01:32 AM
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je suis artiste. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

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And judging by your avatar, a very tempermental one at that!
Siegmund
03-10-2005, 05:22 AM
I wouldn't see any straight draw coming either. There is only one hand out there, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, that could do this to you; not everyone plays 76s at all, and if the suit isn't diamonds it's a 6-out hand that might not be calling two bets.

I would rate K9s and 55 as quite a bit more likely villain's hand than the straight. I agree with playing the flop and the turn fast, but I am going to settle for calling the first raise on the river.

No haiku from me but fastplaying sets seems to work well for me too.
radek2166
03-10-2005, 05:32 AM
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Fast play this set?

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yup