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sinfulslick18
03-09-2005, 05:44 PM
trying to loosen up a bit from lp. and q9s be an ok limp in hand. Tell me what you think. thanks

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Preflop: Hero is CO with 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, MP1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (7 BB) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, UTG calls.

River: (10 BB) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13 BB

-sinful
DeathDonkey
03-09-2005, 05:54 PM
I think you should take the free card that you paid 3 sb for on the flop.

-DeathDonkey
sinfulslick18
03-09-2005, 06:00 PM
check the turn and if i hit bet/raise the river...thats what you mean?

-sinful
brettbrettr
03-09-2005, 06:06 PM
Check the turn, but I'm not sure I raise the river, especially given the caller between you. I'm inclined to say that HU I raise then fold to a 3-bet but just overcall in this spot. Anyone?
bakku
03-09-2005, 07:13 PM
You paid 3 SB for a free card, you should've taken it. You have pretty much zero folding equity here and need to hit something to win. Your equity is probably not high enough most of the time to make this a value bet.
sean c
03-09-2005, 08:53 PM
My question is is this a hand you limp with from CO with only two limpers in front? Any arguement for raise or fold here.
J.R.
03-09-2005, 08:56 PM
ya'll are nuts if you think he paid 3-bets for a free card- that's a super easy value 3-bet, and the option to take a free card is just icing on the cake. but i agree he should check the turn.
J.R.
03-09-2005, 08:57 PM
There's an respectable argument for raise, but not for fold.
psyduck
03-10-2005, 12:55 AM
the 3-bet on the flop was for a free card and to buy extra outs (Q and 9). it was also a value raise because you're against 3 players. this was a fine flop play.

you should take the free card on the turn because you can no longer bet for value (I believe - let's see, 4 Qs, 4 9s, 4 5s 4 Ts + 5 hearts can come to your rescue - 21 cards with 47 leftover). HOWEVER, your two opponents could both be on the same draws as you, so you must eliminate your outs. It might no longer be profitable to value bet. also, you paid 3 sb to take a free card (this is mentioned by a lot of people), so take it.

the river is standard in a pot this big
chief444
03-10-2005, 01:19 AM
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ya'll are nuts if you think he paid 3-bets for a free card- that's a super easy value 3-bet, and the option to take a free card is just icing on the cake. but i agree he should check the turn.

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